No Joe, Its NOT inevitable.
It was a Choice somebody made.
Its equivalent to the PHONE award being changed to VOICE.
And I wonder how far that would get.
73, Mike WB9B
On 08/02/2011 6:40 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> > I agree. This is a mistake. RTTY is a fundamental and historical
> > mode. CW, SSB, RTTY. Dropping it in favor of a generic Digital tag
> > does not provide proper respect for a core mode.
>
> While I also mourn the loss of the "RTTY" DXCC, it is a change that is
> inevitable. Even the "SSB" DXCC is not "SSB" DXCC - it is "Phone"
> DXCC (check your certificates if you have one and look at the DXCC
> page on the ARRL web site. Just as the "RTTY" (now "Digital") DXCC
> accepts confirmations using a wide variety of digital encoding -
> from IAT2 ("RTTY") in various data rates, to PSK, QPSK, AMTOR/PACTOR,
> at their various rates to "strange" modes like MFSK, JT-modes, etc.
> so to does the "Phone" DXCC accept many forms or analog modulation
> - from double sideband with carrier "AM" to SSB, FM, and even SSTV
> and probably digital voice.
>
> "RTTY" has not been an accurate name for the RTTY DXCC for many - maybe
> 20 (?) years. I'm sure there were as many complaints from many of the
> old-timers when the "AM" DXCC was changed to "phone" - certainly there
> were complaints when confirmations using "SSB" were first accepted
> (after all, SSB had that 10 dB advantage over AM - it was unfair).
>
> I am happy my "Digital" DXCC says RTTY and I don't intend to change it
> - but it's time to recognize what has been happening for a long time.
> Several of my confirmations are digital modes other than ITA2 - even
> though I've worked all of the entities using "RTTY" - since some of
> the "RTTY" operators simply would not QSL over the years while newer
> "digital" operators don't seem to be so pecuniary!
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/2/2011 6:47 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
>> I agree. This is a mistake. RTTY is a fundamental and historical
>> mode. CW, SSB, RTTY. Dropping it in favor of a generic Digital tag
>> does not provide proper respect for a core mode. I can see something
>> (also traditional) like SSTV being logically called Digital. But
>> this is a minor mode as is PSK and all the other digital variants.
>>
>> RTTY because of it's fundamental place in radio history, strong use
>> in modern times, and huge growth rate, deserves to remain a separate
>> category. I can only believe that the league did not have an
>> adequate understanding of the prevalence of RTTY when considering
>> their vote otherwise they would have left RTTY as a separate and
>> distinct entity.
>>
>> 73, Jeff ACØC www.ac0c.com
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: iw1ayd Sent: Tuesday, August 02,
>> 2011 5:32 PM To: rtty@contesting.com Subject: [RTTY] Digital DXCC or
>> ARRL Board of Directors, respectfully: have my strong disagreement
>>
>> Hi to all.
>>
>> Just to read the doc abou and not my personal opinion go there:
>>
>>
>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Board%20Meetings/2011%20Second%20MeetingMinutes%281%29.pdf
>>
>> ( Take care of the URL line fragmenting and about the dead space
>> representation as %20 )
>>
>>
>> Abstract from "Minutes of the 2011 Second Meeting - ARRL Board of
>> Directors - July 15-16. 2011"
>>
>> 29. On motion of Mr. Fenstermaker, seconded by Mr. Edgar, the
>> following resolution was ADOPTED: WHEREAS the DX Advisory Committee
>> (DXAC) was charged to investigate many aspects of the ARRL DX
>> program; and WHEREAS Amateur Radio technology has advanced to include
>> many variations of digital communication; and WHEREAS the DXAC has
>> recommended changing the DXCC Award category from RTTY to Digital or
>> RTTY/Digital or Digital Mixed; and WHEREAS the Programs& Services
>> Committee (PSC) deliberated this change and, along with ARRL staff
>> believe the best revised name for this award is Digital DXCC, and
>> WHEREAS, the ARRL thanks the DXAC for its work on this name change;
>> Therefore, it is RESOLVED that the ARRL Board accepts the
>> recommendation of the PSC to change the title of the RTTY DXCC Award
>> to the DIGITAL DXCC Award.
>>
>>
>> What to say, there are no reasons nor facts by any means about the
>> decision taken inside that document, as seen here in the abstract.
>> The phrase " WHEREAS Amateur Radio technology has advanced to
>> include many variations of digital communication ...", tells by
>> itself all. Technology have changed a lot since the radio was only
>> used for CW, sparking or funk (DL), in the meantime, since than and
>> until quite now, there weren't changes in the radio technologies,
>> accordingly to this 2011 sentence: unbelievable.
>>
>> So, RTTY was RTTY, Phone was Phone and CW was CW. Now, 2011, the
>> silliest and subtle discovery that whatever is not Phone or CW must
>> be called Digital, like several appliances we have on hands or at
>> home. So CW, a digital mode by default and by any mean, will remain
>> unDigital as Phone, they couldn't could not be assimilated. RTTY,
>> that by itself haven't any remarkable nor visible soul as Phone o CW,
>> instead will be fully assimilated. Yes like the Star Trek saga, "Any
>> resistance will be futile ...". In the movie that was a nice
>> characterization, now it is only an awful envision at best.
>>
>> Instead to clearly change anything, i.e. adding a Digital DXCC award
>> - yes why not, now we are all assimilated as Digital Borg. Worst,
>> leaving out more than half of the world that is already digital since
>> than. The sacred soul of CW and its big weapons. Playing between
>> presence or absence of a single signal and coding signs accordingly
>> mean enough digital to my, any(?), eyes and my ears, but I would not
>> start a religious discussion there. All the old DEC self instruction
>> tapes have already made this point strong enough in the NRZ signals
>> chapter, almost 35 years ago (just the clock/timing recovering may
>> seems to gets out of the picture ... fuzzy or not fuzzy). Well done,
>> another foot in the grave and nobody know how many of those we have
>> to spare.
>>
>> Nemo propheta in patria.
>>
>>
>> 73 de iw1ayd Salvo
>>
>>
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