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Re: [RTTY] 75 Baud

To: "James Colville" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>, "Vladimir Sidorov" <vs_otw@rogers.com>, <RTTY@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 75 Baud
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:49:54 -0500
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Who said anything about not keeping 45 Baud RTTY?

People need to read and comprehend the content of these messages.

Read it again and tell me what YOU think I said, please!

But I'll give you a head start... a message by GW4SKA and confirmed by UT1IA 
reminded everyone the Ukrainian DX DIGI Contest will be RTTY 75 and PDSK63 
only. Then W7RY added that this was the same weekend as ARRL Field Day. They 
will be operating 45 baud from their site.

My next message was to remind people that Field Day is more a training 
opportunity than an outright contest (no logs are sent in... how can that be 
a real contest?).

Then VE3IAE joins in and expresses his concern not to "throw out the baby 
with the bath water."

Next W7RY jumps back in and, showing no amateur radio spirit, blows off my 
suggestion that Field Day participants might want to consider programming 
their digital stations to be able to operate either speed.

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not Jim, some operators might come 
across 75 baud RTTY signals that weekend and not know what is going on. It's 
not going to decode for them no matter how precisely they tune in the 
signal. Then what?

YOU as an amateur radio Elmer have the opportunity to do something other 
than blow it off.

Now... back to our regularly scheduled pissing contest that has been going 
on here lately.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Colville" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
To: "Vladimir Sidorov" <vs_otw@rogers.com>
Cc: <RTTY@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 75 Baud


>I couldn't agree more Vlad!  And very well articulated!
>
> *
> *
> *Keep RTTY 45 baud!*
>
>
> When the noise came in about the* opportunity *for Field Day, It simply 
> went
> into the trash.
>
> 73
> Jim W7RY
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Vladimir Sidorov <vs_otw@rogers.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Gents,
>>
>> Please be more careful with what we already have by now, i.e the 45 Baud
>> RTTY. This mode is very well established and popular. Moreover, it sits
>> firmly in some radios' hardware. Now that there are more and more talks
>> about the magic 75 Baud one, we have already seen a semi-DX-pedition
>> declaring 75 Baud RTTY "to work them all faster", then a new full-size 75
>> Baud Sprint and finally a recent invitation to play 75 Baud in the Field
>> Day. What's next? It might be another message which we have already seen
>> here in the list, like if the RTTY (OK, the 75 Baud one) performance is
>> like
>> this, then "why bother"? And back to FD, I just recall somebody's report 
>> of
>> RTTY introduction to newbies during the FD using a Pro3 without a PC. Now
>> if
>> the Pro3 cannot catch RTTY by its own built-in RTTY decoder, then again,
>> why
>> bother? The newbies may simply turn into bye-byes.
>> I for one bought a Pro3 to have an instant RTTY machine to catch RTTY DX
>> quickest possible, without spending time for PC boot, etc. It the 75 Baud
>> development is pushed so hard, the Pro3 will turn just into a dust
>> collector.
>>
>> As for the 45 Baud RTTY in contesting, its slower speed just brings up
>> another great operator's challenge, how to handle both the slow speed and
>> the extensive pile-up in the same time...
>>
>> Experiments with 75 Baud are fine, but not for an account of the 
>> mainstream
>> 45 Baud RTTY, please.
>>
>> Sorry, just could not resist.
>>
>> 73,
>> Vladimir VE3IAE
>>
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