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Re: [RTTY] Crystal filter width preferences for RTTY contesting

To: RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Crystal filter width preferences for RTTY contesting
From: Kok Chen <chen@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:31:21 -0700
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On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Jeff Blaine AC0C wrote:

> A common data point  seems to be the Inrad/Elecraft K3 filter @ 250  
> hz. Looking at the top of that filter, it is about -3db down at 240  
> hz and -6db at about 370.  Guys seem to have no negative comments  
> about that filter.

The skirts of the stock K3 filters are not especially tight.  But they  
don't need to be.  They are basically roofing filters to keep the A/D  
converter of the "real" software (DSP) filters from clipping.  Steep  
skirts are much easier, and more accurately, obtained by using DSP  
math than by using a limited number of poles from a crystal filter.

Jim K9YC has a nice write-up on filters, with curves for the FT-1000MP  
(stock and Inrad, and how filters can be cascaded in the MP) and K3.   
See here

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/FilterTestNotes.pdf

I'd stocked my FT-1000MP with some Inrad filters from the days when I  
was still depending on narrow I.F. filters.  (The Inrads are "tighter"  
than the equivalently spec'ed Yaesu filters.)  As a consequence, I  
still have the following compliment for my MP, though I seldom need  
the narrow filters anymore.   With RTTY, I'd used the 500 Hz (Yaesu)  
at the 8215 kHz I.F., cascaded with the 400 Hz (Inrad) at the 455 kHz  
I.F..

>                               455 kHz IF
>                               YF110CN          250 Hz CW      250
>                               IRC 703C          400 Hz CW     500
>                               Empty           -                       2.0
>                               XF115S          Stock           2.4
>
>                               8215 kHz IF
>                               IRC     708B        250 Hz CW       250
>                               XF501           Stock           500     
> (soldered)
>                               IRC 709B          2100 Hz SSB    2.0
>                               XF262           Stock           2.4     
> (soldered)
>                                                               
>                               2nd Rx
>                               YF115C          500 Hz CW

For my K3, I have the 400 Hz, 2.8 kHz and 6 kHz roofing filters.

73
Chen, W7AY


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