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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:48:33 -0500, "Robert Chudek - K0RC"
<k0rc@citlink.net> wrote:
>I have not participated in a DXpedition, so I'm not certain how much QRM
abuse I could tolerate.
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Well, I have, and I think this entire thread is from the wrong perspective.
To bring a pile up to a complete halt in order to chastise a station is a
total waste of time. Since this thread is about RTTY, I'll leave it at that,
but it still is not widely different from CW or SSB.
While all on "this side" of the pile up may think it's warranted to send the
blacklist message, it reflects an inexperienced operator, or one who simply
does not know how to control the pile up (or his temper). Running a pile up
from the DX side is something you have to experience. Take the beginning of
CQWW RTTY and multiply it by a minimum factor of 10. From the DX side you
have very little choice other than to work the ones you can print and get them
out of the pile. It may be a "shame" that the "lid" has the strongest
signal, but so what? You haven't got time to fart around with nastygrams.
It's
easier to work him so he goes away. Most people on "this side" of the pile
most likely couldn't copy the guy anyway. And with RTTY, it's even more
difficult than other modes, even with a 300Hz filter and the best decoding
device,
be that hardware or software.
Frankly, the non-stop callers, jammers, cops, etc are FAR MORE of a
disruption to a pile up than a VERY few stations who dupe. Many people,
including
Doug, TQS, who is on Swain's, AA5AU, etc, have published excellent guidelines
on how to "behave" on this side of a pile up. Unfortunately, the "me, me, me"
mentality prevails.
The topic of this thread is certainly not new. Before we even left for
Agalega, we had a meeting to discuss exactly how to handle the KNOWN abusers
of
multiple Qs. The list was extensive, and I would doubt many of you would be
surprised to know the USA lead the count. Europe had a few, South America a
hand full, and Japan - NONE. Be that as it may, our unanimous decision was to
work them and move on. You have to realize, that if you're copying/printing
xx1xx, it's because he's strong, get him out of there by working him! CW =
5 seconds. RTTY = 15 seconds. Big deal! It's certainly better than
spending 30-40 seconds to hand type a rebuke of some sort. Personally, I
don't
think things like the "blacklist" message are common. How many times do you
see
that? Nigh upon to never. It's not necessary, not "professional" (IMO), and
adds absolutely nothing to the pile up clearing effort. It probably made
the Swain's op "feel" better. I'm happy for him.
If someone feels it's absolutely necessary to "deal" with the offending
station after the expedition, so be it. Again, that takes more time and
effort
than it's worth. So xx1xx had 8 Qs on 20m RTTY. What are you going to do?
Deny him a confirmation. That serves a great purpose - not. This is a hobby.
N8S has over 5000 RTTY Qs. So how many stations are blacklisted? Really a
worthwhile endeavor.....
And lest you counter that working xx1xx 8 times kept 7 others from making
their one-and-only RTTY Q, I direct you to far more people who get some sort of
thrill from working them 9-band RTTY, which serves no purpose whatsoever,
other than ego feeding - unless, of course, your only 17m Q was RTTY. But to
say "wouldn't that be a rare one" for 160 RTTY is beyond me. Rare for what?
A competition of 1, me thinks.
Bottom line: The DX can/will do what they wish. The rest of the world
needs to back off, relax, and remember this is a hobby. They can also plan to
be
DX themselves one day. Then they can send all the blacklist messages they
want....
Off soapbox, returning you to your normal programming....
Steve, N3SL, and part of 3B6RF
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