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Re: [RTTY] LOST MY WPX LOG...

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] LOST MY WPX LOG...
From: Fabi Bertolotto <ve2fbd@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:17 -0500
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Well, with all due respect..I agree Paolo!! say no more we got the picture.
 
Fabi  VA2UP



> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:14:27 +0000> To: k4ww@arrl.net; 
> rtty@contesting.com> From: i2uiy@cqww.com> Subject: Re: [RTTY] LOST MY WPX 
> LOG...> > Dear Shelby,> when I was writing my message to W7LD I immediately 
> thought that someone> could write what you wrote:> > >Paolo...I admire your 
> effort in the log checking, I just believe that your> >"position", on "fixing 
> the log", only encourages cheating?> > but I decided to keep writing and I 
> just added "(I2UIY001 *IS* a typo, why> should you leave it as it is?)" as an 
> example of what I wanted to say.> > I did so because I'm checking logs since 
> almost 20 years and during all this> time I never met someone that left in 
> his log such a typo.> > I simply wrote to fix obvious typos.> I did so 
> because I like to split "theory" from what REALLY happens.> > The chances to 
> cheat that you listed are really FUNNY to me.> You don't know what "cheating" 
> means. If someone wants to cheat in> one of the ways that you listed... he's 
> welcome. His score will not hurt> the final ranking, no pain.> > REAL 
> "cheating" means put 300+ invented callsigns in your log and then> submit 2 
> fake-logs so the log-checking-software should not get you> even if log 
> checker looks for U+1.> > REAL "cheating" means having 2 stations running on 
> 2 separate bands> simultaneously and then rubber the clock to make it look 
> like a simple> band-change and I mean rubber the clock for 48 full hours, not 
> for 5> minutes.> > REAL "cheating" means setup 6 stations hundreds Km far 
> from each> other and then enter the contest as M/M claiming that all the 
> stations> were setup on the public road that belong to the State so all 
> stations> are on the same "property".> > REAL "cheating" means fill a 160m 
> log with over 60 callsigns from the> same, tiny, European country where there 
> are no more than 20 users> of that band.> > Ever seen "Blade Runner" when the 
> replicant says "I've seen things you> people wouldn't believe"?> > If you 
> wanna start the contest 2 minutes earlier... please do it. How many> QSOs are 
> you planning to do in those 2 minutes? Two? Maybe 3, it's OK.> > I would love 
> to believe that everybody just submits his the log as it was on> 23:59:59 UTC 
> at the end of the contest but I do not believe it.> Since everyone runs the 
> contest from his own location, there is no way> to check it so we must trust 
> everybody but we well know that someone> cheats.> > That's why we must keep 
> our feet on the ground.> > > Paolo, I2UIY> WPX & CQWW RTTY Log Checker> > > 
> --------------------------------> > > > At 06.59 28/02/2007 -0500, you 
> wrote:> > >I2UIY, WPX RTTY Log Checker, wrote: Please READ your log (twice is 
> better> >than once) and fix the obvious typos (I2UIY001 *IS* a typo, why 
> should you> >leave it> >as it is?)."> >> >While I may be in the minority, on 
> this situation.... I still contend that> >ANYTHING done to the log, post 
> contest, that may effect the score, is, at> >least unethical, if not illegal! 
> Please explain the difference between> >"typo", and "not copied correctly"? 
> The contest has a "defined" time frame,> >and NOTHING, that may effect the 
> score, should be done outside that "time> >frame"? If I make several 
> contacts, pre-contest, then "fix the time", would> >that be allowed? Actually 
> I was only "fixing the typo"? I know, I know...the> >time is determined by 
> the computer clock, but if it was off, by several> >minutes, would that be a 
> "typo"? If I wait long enough, but stay within the> >log submission 
> requirement, there are several online QSL sites, that allow> >me to "compare" 
> much of my log!> >Paolo...I admire your effort in the log checking, I just 
> believe that your> >"position", on "fixing the log", only encourages 
> cheating?> >> >> >73, Shelby - K4WW> > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing 
> message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 
> 268.18.4/705 - Release Date: 27/02/2007 15.24> > > 
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