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Re: [RTTY] Re: Contest Happenings??

To: wx4tm@tm-moore.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Re: Contest Happenings??
From: Larry L Lindblom <llindblom@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:18:32 -0600
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I'm with Tom on this.  I do not do computer generated labels and reply to
all cards by hand.  The 6 QSOs some stations put on a single card are
time consuming to answer by hand. Also looking up times for those that do
not use UTC is a pain. When I emailed on station about this he though his
local time in 24 hour format was Z or UCT;-)

The last time I originated a card and requested one form another station
was  about 6 years ago.  Since then, I have responded to all cards
received direct with or without an SASE.  I'm just hoping for the day the
tradition of paper cards goes away and everything is done via LOTW.  It
is much cheaper and oh so much easier!!  

73 Larry L
W0ETC


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:11:17 -0600 "Tom Moore" <wx4tm@tm-moore.com>
writes:
> Not sure how this little habit/feature ever got started except that 
> it
> may have been as a result of some programmer getting a lot QSL 
> cards
> with incorrect times.  As a result, he decided to send the correct 
> time
> at the end of all his qso's to help the potential QSL'er to fill out 
> his
> card correctly.
> 
> I've never done that, but I do get a lot cards with times that are 2 
> to
> 4 hrs off. In a lot of cases, I figured out, the time is his 
> 'local'
> time instead of UTC or Z time!  This occurs often enough to 
> generate
> some confusion and frustration especially when the originator sends
> cards for 'every' single QSO he ever made with me; i.e, 6 20M 
> contacts,
> 10 15M QSO's, 7 40M Q's, etc. I can perhaps see the need for two, 
> maybe
> three cards to confirm QSO's on each mode ande band. And I hate not 
> to
> reply to a QSL card requesting a reply. But a card for every single 
> QSO
> ever made with me? C'mon give me a break.
> 
> Ah, the auto printing of lables.  Because its apparently so easy 
> now, it
> seems like more and more are printing QSL labels for every QSO 
> after
> each contest. Putting sometimes as many as 6, 8 or even 10 QSO's on 
> a
> single QSL card. I've often wondered if I'd get all those cards for 
> all
> those same mode/band QSO's if the sender had to fill them all out 
> by
> hand. QSL'ing EVERY QSO, it seems to me, just lessens the 
> significance
> and value of the QSL.  And, I think this computer generated 'bulk'
> QSL'ing is the reason why many have quit qsl'ing via the burro
> altogether.
> 
> Even so, because I receive a QSL requesting a response, I have, in 
> the
> past, felt obligated to reply to each and every card I get.  But I 
> don't
> have or use auto printed lables, so I have to fill out each card by
> hand! And I'm getting older so it takes a lot of time and effort
> especially when there's usually a bunch of them with the wrong times 
> on
> them. So it may not be too long before I'm forced to quit responding 
> to
> QSL's received via the buro, or at minimum, start doing selective 
> QSL
> responses.
> 
> It sure seems to me we are fast losing the meaning and purpose of 
> many
> of our long honored traditions.
> 
> SEVEN THREE (not seventy three, seventy threesss, or seventy 
> thirds)
> 
> 
> Tom WX4TM
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kok Chen" <chen@mac.com>
> To: "rtty-contesting" <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Re: Contest Happenings??
> 
> 
> > Even though there is a 4-digit macro for UTC time for use in 
> contest
> > exchanges that need them, the one thing that I have utterly 
> refused to
> > implement is a string macro which has the current date and time in 
> its
> > full glory.  It only encourages the LIDs.  Let them type it in if 
> they
> > feel that strongly about announcing to the world the date and time 
> at
> > which they have entered the QSO into the log.
> >
> > 73
> > Chen, W7AY
> >
> >
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