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Subject: [RTTY] 4U1VIC
From: w1ksz at tiac.net (Richard Solomon, W1KSZ)
Date: Thu May 8 19:44:25 2003
I think the "straw" was 1A0KM. The League had a dream (nightmare),
wherein every Embassy became a "Country", amongst other such areas.
Can you imagine the Country Total if that happened !
The DXCC Desk would have to hire another 50 Card Counters !!

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com]On
Behalf Of Bernie McClenny, W3UR
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 6:31 PM
To: 'Thomas Korinek'; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [RTTY] 4U1VIC


I think the reason is stated below.

"Areas having the following characteristics are not eligible for
inclusion on the DXCC List, and are considered as part of the host
Entity for DXCC purposes:

i) Any extraterritorial legal Entity of any nature including, but not
limited to, embassies, consulates, monuments, offices of the United
Nations agencies or related organizations, other inter-governmental
organizations or diplomatic missions;"

I believe this rule was put in to effect after 4U1ITU and 4U1UN were
added to the list and before 4U1VIC, 4U1WP, 4U1WB, etc. were QRV.
4U1ITU and 4U1UN were grandfathered, so to speak.  Until something
changes they will remain on the list.

Bernie, W3UR




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-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Thomas Korinek
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 20:08
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 4U1VIC

Unfortunatly Jeff wk6i is right - at least according to the ARRL-rules.

The ARRL tells us that 4U1VIC counts for OE.
Just wonder why 4U1ITU does NOT count for HB???
And why 4U1UN does not count for W ???

The Vienna International Center definatly is NOT part of OE. It is
exteritorial !!!!

So since it is NOT austrian territory - why should  it count as OE ???
(Just
because a bunch of old mans = ARRL decided it that way ???) Ahh - to err
is
human - so pse forgive me - ahh them ....

PSE Do us a favor:
If you want to get your DXCC send them a qsl-card from an OE-station NOT
the
one from 4U1VIC  to get your credit for OE.

PS: I also have operated from 4U1VIC in the early 90?s. (Till we had
cleaned
up the bands - then it became boring since nobody else needed a qso ...)

That?s all for now

73 de Tom - OE1KTS


----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Stai WK6I <wk6i@twistedoak.com>
To: Roberto <ea2ry@ea2ry.com>; RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 4U1VIC


> At 09:25 AM 5/8/2003, Roberto wrote:
> >Today i have received following qsl via bureau:
> >
> >4U1VIC - Vienna International Amateur Radio Club - United Nations in
Vienna
> >QSO1: SEP-1999 - RTTY - 15M
> >QSO2: NOV-2001 - CW - 15M
> >
> >This callsing is valued for 4U-ITU or 4U-UN ??????
>
> I have contacts with 4U1WB (World Bank) in Washington DC, which are
considered a US (K) contact.
>
> If this is an indication, then your QSL would be OE (Austria).
>
> Best to check with the DXCC desk to be sure - 73! - jeff wk6i
>
>
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