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[RTTY] Fwd: [NCCC] Re: RTTY Roundup problem

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Subject: [RTTY] Fwd: [NCCC] Re: RTTY Roundup problem
From: chen@mac.com (Kok Chen)
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:18:33 -0700
Since Trey only sent this to the NCCC reflector, I thought our
RTTY crowd might be interested, too.

(I lost three AA4NC QSO as NIL, by the way.  Errr, I mean AA6TY
lost three Q's.)

73
Chen, W7AY


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Trey Garlough <trey@kkn.net>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
> Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002  09:38:18 AM US/Pacific
> To: nccc@contesting.com
> Subject: [NCCC] Re: RTTY Roundup problem
> Reply-To: trey@kkn.net
>
>> It appears that there was a problem with AA4NC's log in the 2002
>> RTTY Roundup, and many of us got dinged slightly because of that
>> problem.  The word is that his log was accepted, but it wasn't the
>> proper log.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that a simple QSO count of incoming logs be
>> sent in the feedback message so that there is some assurance that
>> the proper log has been accepted.
>
> It's a little more complicated than this.
>
> I heard some of the details last week and it goes something like this:
> AA4NC's log was genrerated by a friend of his who used a Cabrillo
> converter.  Unforunately he fed in his own log into the converter
> rather than AA4NC's, yielding an "AA4NC log" that had the wrong QSO
> data within.
>
> In an ideal world the log checking process should identify this type
> of problem immediately, but in reality this sort of thing is more
> often discovered by accident or by serendipity.  You see, if AA4NC's
> log is a superset of his friend's (and the log checking doesn't verify
> QSO times), then AA4NC might have ended up with a very low score
> reduction for himself because he worked every station his friend did
> and more.  And if the Cabrillo converter computes a claimed score as
> it does the conversion and puts it into the CLAIMED-SCORE: field, then
> his score final score could look very believable with repsect to his
> claimed score.
>
> The good way to discover this type of error is to generate why might
> be called a "reverse UBN" report, in other words, one that asks which
> station caused the most busted QSOs for other people.
>
> The guys who are doing the work for the RTTY Roundup are still using
> pretty young software, so it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they
> haven't gotten around to generating funky reports like that.
>
> --Trey, N5KO
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