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Re: [RFI] RFI Signature

To: "Jeff (W4DD)" <w4dd09@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI Signature
From: Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 15:12:41 -0500
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Hi Jeff,

I know you said the neighbor is not interested in doing a circuit breaker
test but I assume you mean turning off one circuit breaker at a time until
the RFI goes away.  I now try and avoid turning off a circuit breaker at a
time if at all possible.  My first step which is often very successful is
to sniff the circuit breakers one at a time with a 1 inch diameter loop
connected to a receiver with a good signal strength indicator (normally my
laptop based SDR receiver but sometimes just my shortwave receiver) and
sometimes I have an external preamp in line.  Sometimes it’s very obvious
which breaker is feeding the device causing RFI but other times I only see
a 6dB difference between the guilty circuit and other breakers in the panel
but with careful observation I’m normally very successful using this method.

Here is a link to a video showing how I sniff the circuit breakers in case
you’ve not seen my method before and in this particular case it was very
obvious.  A few weeks ago I had another case which was not as obvious but I
still successfully identified the correct circuit by just sniffing the
breakers.
https://youtu.be/vDB8rAwVt5Y

Just FYI,
Don wd8dsb

On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 2:20 PM Jeff (W4DD) <w4dd09@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I am working on a RFI case that we believe is coming from a nearby home.
> The owner is a little cooperative, but is not interested in doing a ckt
> breaker test.  The noise exhibits some interesting characteristics that may
> help us in suggesting he unplug a device.  Perhaps someone has seen this
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> 1.      On the pan adapter, looks like power line noise.  Random dots
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> the screen.
> 2.      No repeating clusters of noise vs frequency that might suggest a
> SMPS.
> 3.      No correlation to sunlight or darkness.  No correlation to time of
> day.
> 4.      Has distinct levels of interference; we have noted -85dBm, -78dBm,
> -72dBm (S-9), -66dBm.  Interesting the levels are about 6dB apart.  -78 and
> -72 are most common.
> 5.      The neighbor has a solar system installed roughly 2 years ago, but
> as mentioned, no correlation to sunlight/darkness or time of day.
> 6.      Affects mostly 80M but can be heard on other bands
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> Has anyone seen 4 levels of noise from a device before?
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> Thanks for any ideas.
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> Jeff, W4DD
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