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To: Joe <w7rkn.7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] FW: Sweden imposes higher levy on electricity bills for EMC | Southgate Amateur Radio News
From: Dave <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:35:18 -0800
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Hi Joe,

With regards to the FCC, for the most part I agree with you. I think there are pockets of folks within the FCC that actually still want to assist in making things better, but for the most part, like you, I believe the upper management is not listening to our concerns, because they don't generate money...

You are correct, I for some reason, (OMG I'm getting old), got you and the other fellow confused...

Hopefully the "canary in the coal mine" idea will take root. About the only ears listening now are the ARRL, and a few other folks... Hopefully that will change with time, but I fear you are correct, it will not...

I will probably move out to the country at some point in the next few years, that should help mitigate my personal RFI issues...

Good to hear from you again sir!!

On 12/31/21 09:51, Joe wrote:
Hi Dave....

My point was simply that to most people. EMI/RFI has little to no meaning.   To tax all for something that, to the majority of people, would have no affect or meaning, was questionable.

I have never disputed the fact that most fees any group or organization imposes, be it government, HOA's, clubs, etc., can (and are) be misused/misspent.

BTW, it was not I who mentioned the vote out of office suggestion.  That too rarely works either.  Case in point, the recent recall election in California.  No problem getting the sigs on the petitions to make the recall possible, but when it came down to the vote, the recall was a bust. (And a waste of California’s taxpayers money. )  [And no, I do not live in California!]

What *IS* my opinion is that the FCC has no concerns about important matters, like anything pertaining to overall communications, but only to those things that generate funds for their perceived needed agendas. Like frequency allotments, controlling the internet, etc.

::SIGH::  Not much we can do about it, if there are no 'ears' willing to listen to real complaints. L

Joe – W7RKN

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:dave@nk7z.net]
Subject: Re: [RFI] FW: Sweden imposes higher levy on electricity bills for EMC | Southgate Amateur Radio News

Hi Joe,

Again, respectfully, you keep moving the question from would I pay

$600.00 a year to have a clean RF environment, to something other than a

clean RF environment for my paying a fee...  These are entirely

different questions.  So for now, lets agree to a different set of

questions...

Let me answer your new question:

All of us are already paying a fee, (via taxes), for enforcement of the

EMI suppression laws, and yet here we are with EMI problems!

We are here because that process has clearly failed us.  So why would I

pay an additional fee for a failed process?

Thus my answer is no, I am not willing to pay an increased fee for a

failed process.  However, (as per my original answer to the original

question), I am willing to pay a reasonable fee for a successful process.

As you said:

On 12/30/21 16:43, Joe wrote:

 >But you (and I) are but .001%, or less, of the population.  I really

  >doubt many non-hams would welcome another needless (to them) 'tax'

  >added to what they are burdened with already!

The above seem to be in conflict with what you suggested originally, to

threaten officials with removal by election.

As I said initially, we can not threaten elected officials with a vote

to remove, over EMI issues, for precisely the reason I stated

originally, and you have now agreed with.

That said, the real question here is how do we solve the current EMI

problem with solutions that will actually work, in the current environment?

I think the ARRL is on the right track...  Start by setting boundaries,

via current methods...

While this is a very slow process, it is one that I believe in the long

run will help.

Will it fix the issue of EMI, not a chance, but it will make it

better...  But only when people in general are effected by EMI.

On 12/30/21 16:43, Joe wrote:

> But you (and I) are but .001%, or less, of the population.  I really doubt

> many non-hams would welcome another needless (to them) 'tax' added to what

 > they are burdened with already!

 >

 > How about any radio frequency licensee paying an additional fee for RFI

 > surpression?  Would you (we) be open to that?

 >

 > Joe - W7RKN

 >

 > -----Original Message-----

> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces+w7rkn.7=gmail.com@contesting.com] On Behalf Of

 > Dave

> Subject: Re: [RFI] FW: Sweden imposes higher levy on electricity bills for

 > EMC | Southgate Amateur Radio News

 >

 > Joe,

 >

 > Am I willing to pay more for a clean RF environment, yes!  I would

 > happily pay $600/year for a clean RF spectrum.

 >

 >

73,

Dave,

https://www.nk7z.net

73,
Dave,
https://www.nk7z.net

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