His "cocky" in a huff last words were, "I'll try to install those things if I
get a chance". Since I'm retired, I know how many chances have come and gone,
too many. This is about a 1/2 hours work per light, at worst, (6) lights = 3
hrs. These are post mounted deck lights, each post has a cap, it's not rocket
science. No criticism taken !!
Brad, N8GLS
-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 12:07 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
Hi again,
Has he actually said he is going to do nothing, or is there just a lack of
action? How much time has passed from your first test to now?
I am not criticizing how you are handling this, but trying to get a picture of
exactly what has transpired...
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 11/22/19 9:00 AM, N8GLS wrote:
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> I’m in northeast Ohio, east of Cleveland.
>
>
>
> He acknowledges the interference is coming from the low voltage deck lights,
> he has also seen the videos clearly showing the before and after but is just
> refusing to actually do anything. It’s the proverbial “you can lead a horse
> to water” except in this case the water was delivered, poured into a Chablis
> wine glass, with ice, served with white gloves, and an assortment of fine
> cheeses……..hi hi !!
>
>
>
> From: Michael Martin <mike@rfiservices.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:59 AM
> To: n8gls@arrl.net
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> Hello Brad,
>
> Well it sounds like you've proven the cause. One of the things I like to do
> when approaching the owner of the offending source, is to have a radio in my
> hand that will display the noise. In your case I would approach the door with
> a clear radio station, maybe FM, and at a very low levels and as I'm talkin
> turn the volume up just slightly so they can hear the clear radio station.
> Then say this is a really clear station but let me show you this and
> hopefully through a memory channel in the radio or just tune to the am
> frequency where the noise is being displayed and say quote this is the noise
> I get on my equipment well your lights are on and then turn it up slightly so
> he can hear it so they get a better example as to what you're dealing with
> sometimes it's very convincing actually most of the time it's very
> convincing. Saying that all I'm interested in is being able to use my
> equipment without interference. It's unfortunate that he has the originator
> and source of the interference and you understand it isn't his fault that he
> has that but the manufacturer that built it build it without filtering and
> that is a violation of FCC rules and regulations and you're willing to help
> him install those filters to get rid of it that they should have installed.
>
> I'd still like to know what area you are in?
>
> Best wishes
>
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> On Nov 21, 2019, at 11:52 PM, N8GLS <n8gls@arrl.net <mailto:n8gls@arrl.net> >
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike,
>
>
>
> The RFI started occurring on the Sunday I returned from Hamvention. Just
> installed the new IC-9700 and the band scope was showing pulsating band wide
> noise. Also the s-meter on the 2m FM rig was fluctuating up to almost full
> scale even though no signal was present. Going outside I noticed the newly
> installed deck lights, called my neighbor, and sure enough he just finished
> Saturday installing them. I asked him to turn them off for a minute and the
> noise disappeared, turning them back on brought it back. I was able to get a
> spare light he had, took it in the shack and regardless of being powered off
> pure DC or low voltage AC it was emitting RFI like I never saw before. See
> my QRZ page for links to the videos (intentionally non-technical) for my
> neighbor, the Mfg and for the ARRL.
>
>
>
> 73 de Brad, N8GLS
>
> Mentor, OH
>
>
>
> From: Michael Martin <mike@rfiservices.com
> <mailto:mike@rfiservices.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:32 PM
> To: n8gls@arrl.net <mailto:n8gls@arrl.net>
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> Hey Brad I'm sorry to hear about your issue too bad it's not uncommon!
>
> I don't remember seeing or hearing about how you determined that there's
> lights were the issue!
>
> I'm not second-guessing you I'm just curious as to the method you used to
> determine they were the cause of the problem.
>
> I'd also be interested in knowing where this is, the state & town.
>
> Best wishes to you
>
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> On Nov 21, 2019, at 7:12 PM, N8GLS <n8gls@arrl.net <mailto:n8gls@arrl.net> >
> wrote:
>
> I filed an "informal" complaint with the FCC a month ago regarding RFI
> emanating from a neighbor's installation of LED Deck Lights done back
> in May 2019. I did receive one response that a ticket number was
> assigned and have been regularly checking the status but no further
> "action" yet. I realize this may be a fairly long process and may not
> go anywhere but was curious if anybody here has ever filed a complaint
> and if so how long it took before some indication of status was received ??
>
>
>
> A little history: The interference affects almost the entire 2m band.
> This neighbor was initially cooperative and once I found a solution (a
> simple combination of Chokes) I bought and gave him all the chokes
> needed for the entire deck as well as offering to install them myself
> or at least help. A reply of "no help needed, I can install myself no
> problem" gave me an indication of sincerity ..that was back in July.
> These lights have turned on at dusk and off at about 1am every single
> day since May. I politely called him again the beginning of Oct
> reminding him the interference was still emanating from the lights and
> I would still install if he didn't have the time. That call ended
> with an agitated response of "its not my problem" and "I don't
> believe by merely buying these lights in any way makes me responsible
> for anything", followed by "If they were so bad they wouldn't be
> sold". It was clear there was no intention of installing anything at
> any time and further conversation about the situation would be
> fruitless. Left with no other solution I filed the informal complaint
> and included a summary of the issue, timeline of events and links to a couple
> videos showing the interference being received as well as one solution to
> remedy it.
>
>
>
> Frustrating to say the least, and sadly, words like "cooperation",
> "politeness", "neighborly" and "respect" don't seem to mean much these days.
>
>
>
> 73 de Brad, N8GLS
>
>
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