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Re: [RFI] (Fwd) [ICOM] Reflector Software Change

To: <kgordon2006@frontier.com>, "'Dale J. via RFI'" <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] (Fwd) [ICOM] Reflector Software Change
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:05:30 +0000
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Arg, this is going to be confusing... even the reply to my own reply shows
the 'dale j via rfi' on the to line.

I really think that all lists should show ONLY the list address as the
source and reply-to for all messages.  If a user wants to have their
personal email address exposed to all the list recipients they can add it in
their signature.  This would be much safer as it should prevent viruses and
spambots from skimming the sender's addresses out of list messages and would
provide a consistent way to reply, always to the list, unless you manually
copy the senders address from somewhere else to reply directly.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net


-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Robbins
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 19:57
To: kgordon2006@frontier.com; 'Dale J. via RFI'
Subject: Re: [RFI] (Fwd) [ICOM] Reflector Software Change

I see an issue... reply-all doesn't put the list address in either the to or
cc fields.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net


-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth G. Gordon
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 19:52
To: Dale J. via RFI
Subject: [RFI] (Fwd) [ICOM] Reflector Software Change

Dale: here is a copy of that e-mail I was telling you about. It explains a
lot.

Ken W7EKB
------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent:      Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:22:39 -0700
From:   Dick Flanagan <dick@k7vc.com>
To:     ICOM Reflector <icom@mailman.qth.net>, 
        Mobile-Portable Reflector <mobile-portable@mailman.qth.net>,
        SIERA Reflector <siera@mailman.qth.net>, 
        Nevada Ham Reflector <nvham@mailman.qth.net>,
nevadaares@mailman.qth.net
Subject:        [ICOM] Reflector Software Change
Send reply to:  ICOM Reflector <icom@mailman.qth.net>
        <mailto:icom-request@mailman.qth.net?subject=unsubscribe>
        <mailto:icom-request@mailman.qth.net?subject=subscribe>


Recent actions by Yahoo have caused a large amount of bounced email and
automatic unsubscribes from qth.net email lists. If you want to read the
gory details go here:

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC

This afternoon I upgraded the list software on the mailman.qth.net email
server to hopefully eliminate the issue.  The main side effect is this:

If the sender of a message is coming from Yahoo or one of the domains that
Yahoo controls you will notice a few different things about those messages
when they go to the list:

- Messages will appear to come from a munged email address not belonging to
the sender.  If the sender has his name set in his email client or on the
list server then messages will appear to come from a user appearing like
this in the From field: "Firstname Lastname via LISTNAME" or something
similar.

- The poster's email is preserved and appears in the Reply-To field.
SO to reply to the list, the poster will have to specifically select Reply
All in his email client in order for his response to go to the entire list.
In some cases this represents no change.  This is probably a safer setting
and avoids embarrassment for those who can't resist being nasty and
vindictive in their emails.

If you see any issues please let me (George K5TR)and Scott KA9FOX know ASAP.

I would further suggest that you might want to send a general note to your
list to encourage people to resubscribe and that the bounce/unsubscribe
issues should be behind us now.

Thanks,
George Fremin III - K5TR

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
dick@k7vc.com

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------- End of forwarded message -------


Kenneth G. Gordon W7EKB

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."--- John   Wayne

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