Thanks, Gary and Bob, for your replies. In the meantime I queried Bob
Heil regarding the problem and he says that there's no way the HM-10 can
work with the Orion! It's an unbalanced mike whereas the Orion has a
balanced audio input. The Studio One was specifically designed by him
to accommodate that input.
I am dumfounded because I used the HM-10 for a couple of months with the
Orion and specifically asked a number of stations for critical reports,
some of them good friend who would tell it like it is, and they all said
it sounded fine with either the HC-4 or -5 cartridge. I also listened
to my transmitted sigs on the Orion monitor and a second RX. Finally,
the scope pattern looked like typical Xmas trees and still does.
It was a used mike, and I am wondering if the previous owner modified it
in some way to make it work with the Orion.
I'm still working on the problem and will update the list if and when I
figure out what's going on.
73, Joe
Robert Carroll wrote:
When you say oscillation, do you mean you can actually hear a low level
sine-like tone?
Bob W2WG
-----Original Message-----
From: orion-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:orion-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Joe Giacobello
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:43 PM
To: Gary Tuck; Orion @contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Orion] firmware Questions
Gary, that's an interesting piece of information on the mike audio gain.
Do you know any more the details on this 2nd mike gain adjustment. I've
been experiencing some weird behavior on SSB lately myself. I've pasted
my original posting below. I wonder if this second adjustment might be
involved somehow?
I have successfully used the Studio One and Heil HM-10 mike with the
Orion. However, I recently got a bad audio report with the HM-10
despite the fact that the signal looked clean on my scope. As a result,
I started carefully listening to my audio on a second receiver, and
there does seem to be some kind of low level oscillation and other noise
with the HM-10. But I also noticed with both mikes that there is some
kind of AGC action or compression going on. (BTW, the speech processor
is off.)
For instance, when using the Studio One, the audio sounds OK as long as
I'm speaking, but if I pause for a short time the background noise
slowly increases to a level that is quite noticeable. With the HM-10,
the background noise increases until I hear the oscillation and other
crud. It's as if I were using processing. I haven't received any bad
audio reports with the Studio One, but I wonder if this compression
effect is normal or is there something haywire with my setup?
73, Joe
Gary Tuck wrote:
I've commented on the AGC popping situation here and have found few
others who seem to be experiencing the problem. I know that if I use
higher impedance headphones, 64 ohm, it really helps--over my HS-5's
even if I put 47-100 ohm resisters in the audio lines with the 8 ohm
cans.
My Sweep does not freeze if I make sure that NR is off in the Sub
receiver.
There are two mic gain adjustments. One is under the transceiver thru
a small hole a couple inches back from the front behind the User
buttons. I placed my front panel mic gain at 50 and then adjusted the
circuit board pot with a small insulated driver and that helped. Any
further adjustment was with the front panel control. Paul in Service
told me about this.
When you say transceiver freezing, what are you experiencing? I know
that before I upgraded to 1.372 I had a couple of receiver freezes
(either main or sub) and then a couple of times after the upgrade. I
didn't like the audio popping and delays I experienced with BW, Cut
and AF so I reinstalled 1.371 after clearing ram and doing a master
reset. Then another master reset after the 1.371 install. I felt
like I was re-formating the drive and re-installing a clean operating
system on a fairly new PC. The receiver freezes have not come back.
I was getting transmitter freezes--keying but no power output--after
using my Centaur. Tommy had understood another ham had turned both
Keying Loops on and that had helped. I've been trying that and have
not experienced another problem. Doesn't seem logical and may not be
related but it's working so far for me.
I got my Orion September 1st so ours are probably from the same
production run.
73, Gary W7TEA
On Jan 5, 2005, at 10:54 AM, skip wrote:
I've been reading the mail for a while and also I have made some
comments
about the Orion's Firmware problems. I got my Orion in September or
2004.
The AGC seems to have problems with popping as I think the Agc is
released.
Sweep display and transceiver freezing and needs reset
I use a Heil Proline mic and cable I purchased from TT and it seems
that the
mic gain has to be set at almost 100%
Key Clicks @ 20- 30 wpm
some other problem but not as bad as the above.
Do all Orion's have this ???? I see guy's on the Ten Tec reflector
saying
they never had any problem with their radio. How can this be if it's
in the
firmware ?????????
de Skip K3CC
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