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[Orion] Re: Orion interface to N1MM logger now fixed

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Subject: [Orion] Re: Orion interface to N1MM logger now fixed
From: "W9GE" <finger@goeaston.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:17:48 -0500
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Thanks to the quick responses.  I found the problem.  It was cockpit error
of course.  I had the wrong baud rate set.  73 bob de w9ge
----- Original Message -----
From: "W9GE" <finger@goeaston.net>
To: <orion@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:32 PM
Subject: Orion interface to N1MM logger


> Has anyone interfaced the Orion to N1MM logger?  While my Orion was in the
> shop being repaired I switched logging programs from WL to N1MM.
>
> With the Orion back on the table, I cannot seem to make it interface to
> N1MM.  Can someone  help, please.  Thanks  73 bob de w9ge
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> >    1. Orion NR Function and Aurora-like Received CW Note
> >        (Joe Giacobello)
> >    2. Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved (Joe Giacobello)
> >    3. RE: Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved (Richard Detweiler)
> >    4. Re: Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved (Joe Giacobello)
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> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:36:50 -0500
> > From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
> > To: orion@contesting.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: [Orion] Orion NR Function and Aurora-like Received CW Note
> > Message-ID: <40591952.1030305@swva.net>
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> > I am a new Orion owner after having bought a used unit last week.  The
> > unit was just repaired and upgraded with the latest hardware changes
> > about three weeks ago.  All seems to be working well except all of
> > sudden the received CW audio turned somewhat raspy on all bands.  I have
> > a vague recollection of having seen references to this problem in
> > previous posts before purchasing the rig.  If so, can anyone enlighten
> > me as to the source of the problem?
> >
> > While the NR function seems to work as described in the manual, I have
> > comments and a question.  As I understand it, the NR function attempts
> > to distinguish between noise and the desired signal and then
> > automatically builds a filter window around the desired signal to
> > minimize the noise and increase the S/N ratio.  It seems to me that when
> > one attempts to enhance a weak signal in that manner, that automatic
> > process would only be effective if the frequency were QRM-free.  In
> > other words how is the processing able to distinguish between the
> > desired (weak) signal and any interfering stations?  One argument might
> > be that the processing only operates on signals exactly in the center of
> > the passband.  Also, if one were able to eliminate QRM by narrowing the
> > passband, then presumably there would be no problems.  On the other
> > hand, in a simplex pileup the desired (weak) signal would be ignored by
> > NR unless one were able to activate it when all QRM were absent.  Isn't
> > this a serious limitation for an auto NR function vs the more common
> > manual NR and signal peaking features of audio based DSP units such as
> > the JPS NIR-12?  Do I have this right?  I'd be interested in hearing any
> > comments on this topic.
> >
> > Thanks and 73 de Joe
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> > From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
> > To: orion@contesting.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
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> > It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in the
> > first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the problem
> > appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after having changed
> > power supplies without any improvement.
> >
> > 73, Joe
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:58:24 -0600
> > From: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil@hotmail.com>
> > To: orion@contesting.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved
> > Message-ID: <BAY1-F63JzsVSmOApgs0000d1e0@hotmail.com>
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> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Glad you got your Orion,  I think you'll come to really love it.  It's
the
> > best thing going today for RX performance.
> >
> > The problem you found seems to be a common problem many of us are
seeing.
> >
> > When this happens, if you can,  try to record all you can and send it
into
> > ditnbits.  It may not be all that practical, but we all try.
> >
> > It may or may not be a microcode problem,  don't have an answer to that
> yet.
> >
> > I'm seeing a couple of different symptoms,
> >
> > 1) the RX just gets poor,  signal is there but weak and distorted.,  No
> > display changes all controlls seem to work,  I just master reset and go
> on.
> >
> > 2) The RX Stops No Signal,  static though, and TX stops,  there is the
> > lettering "DSP T/O 0" next to the send 2 key on the screen.  Again,
master
> > reset, and back on the air.
> >
> > These happen at inopportune times,  I've tried to keep the sweep off as
it
> > reduces the number of occurances.  Yet I've had it happen even with the
> > sweep off.  It may be related to the PC polling the rig.
> >
> >
> > 73's
> > Rich
> > K5SF
> >
> >
> > >From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
> > >Reply-To: k2xx@swva.net
> > >To: orion@contesting.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > >Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> > >
> > >It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in the
> > >first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the problem
> > >appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after having changed
> > >power supplies without any improvement.
> > >
> > >73, Joe
> > >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:57:36 -0500
> > From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
> > To: Richard Detweiler <rdetweil@hotmail.com>
> > Cc: orion@contesting.com
> > Cc: tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved
> > Message-ID: <4059C6F0.6040502@swva.net>
> > In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F63JzsVSmOApgs0000d1e0@hotmail.com>
> > References: <BAY1-F63JzsVSmOApgs0000d1e0@hotmail.com>
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> >
> > Rich, thanks for your confirmation that this is a known problem and that
> > a master reset eliminates it.  BTW, the problem resurfaced last night
> > about 60 minutes after I had tried the reset.  I have not connected the
> > behavior with any particular mode or function being on.  I have only
> > used the Orion on CW so far.  I do use the sweep.  I noticed that the
> > received signals did indeed seem poor and the band (40M) sounded very
> > noisy last night.  I wasn't sure whether it was the RX or the band was
> > lousy.  (Unfortunately, about three days after I received the Orion, my
> > 1000MP lost its audio and I had no way of comparing the two.)  I didn't
> > notice any lettering as you describe and I never lost TX function, but
> > I'll be checking things again this morning.
> >
> > Up to this point, the unit had been working well and I had been fine
> > tuning parameters according to the manual and Sinisa's and Yuri's
> > suggestions.  I actually thought the September revision to the manual
> > was pretty good.  I notice that Sinisa's and the manual's "all purpose"
> > AGC recommendations differ, but I'll be comparing them more thoroughly
> > as I get to understand the AGC parameters better and become more
> > familiar with the rig.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> > 73, Joe
> >
> > Richard Detweiler wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > Glad you got your Orion,  I think you'll come to really love it.  It's
> > > the best thing going today for RX performance.
> > >
> > > The problem you found seems to be a common problem many of us are
> seeing.
> > >
> > > When this happens, if you can,  try to record all you can and send it
> > > into ditnbits.  It may not be all that practical, but we all try.
> > >
> > > It may or may not be a microcode problem,  don't have an answer to
> > > that yet.
> > >
> > > I'm seeing a couple of different symptoms,
> > >
> > > 1) the RX just gets poor,  signal is there but weak and distorted.,
> > > No display changes all controlls seem to work,  I just master reset
> > > and go on.
> > >
> > > 2) The RX Stops No Signal,  static though, and TX stops,  there is the
> > > lettering "DSP T/O 0" next to the send 2 key on the screen.  Again,
> > > master reset, and back on the air.
> > >
> > > These happen at inopportune times,  I've tried to keep the sweep off
> > > as it reduces the number of occurances.  Yet I've had it happen even
> > > with the sweep off.  It may be related to the PC polling the rig.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73's
> > > Rich
> > > K5SF
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
> > >> Reply-To: k2xx@swva.net
> > >> To: orion@contesting.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > >> Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
> > >> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> > >>
> > >> It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in
> > >> the first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the
> > >> problem appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after
> > >> having changed power supplies without any improvement.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Joe
> > >>
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