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Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
From: Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:22:49 -0400
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canopy interference? I have found that canopy causes retrans on karlnet
even if the snr is above 23dbm


jna@tcpbbs.net wrote:


I as well get the exact IP freeze issue on our kn and ap bases. However I am
getting something else that is really knocking me out. We are getting good
signals from an example link (-45dbm Signal/-83 dbm Noise) link is rock
solid. Then various times during the day and night the link will not
increase in noise floor but the retrans will go almost 75% with packet loss
so large the link becomes unresponsive. The signal levels will jump around
to meet the noise floor and not the opposite. This dumps the links as well.
It is not hardware at the sites this happens at as we have totally swapped
things out. Anyone else seeing this?

John



again this isn't a real fix, ideally the ISP base should see the problem
and stop the retrans loop, I'd rather drop the one CPE then drop DROP
ALL CPE"s...
it just happened again as I"m writing this email,....


Joe Correia wrote:




Change your channel & network ID.
We find that on some channels our isp base's will go 4-10 days before
we see it do the retransmit loop, while others channels we'll be luck
to get a few hours.
The best fix is to upgrade the problem user with higher gain ant... or
a higher powered card if the noise is high or jumping around.
We're running the beta v4.46 and still seeing this. ;^(


--Joe



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 1. Re: IP Freeze (gbricaire@bricaire.com)
 2. Re: IP Freeze (Dan Metcalf)
 3. RE: IP Freeze (Scott Williams)
 4. Re: IP Freeze (Dan Metcalf)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:42:28 -0500
From: gbricaire@bricaire.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
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Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.

Any advice, anybody??


Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:






Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
traffic for the other CPE's on that AP



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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:50:28 -0400
From: Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
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I've been dealing with this for almost 2 years

gbricaire@bricaire.com wrote:





Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.

Any advice, anybody??


Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:








Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
traffic for the other CPE's on that AP



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:09:53 -0700
From: "Scott Williams" <swilliams@skyriver.net>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
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When the base freezes up look in turbocell station entries to see
which radio is in a re-transmit loop.  Then log into that
radio and change the transmit rate.  I find that 5.5Mbps works
well, but you may need to go to 2Mbps.  When I've done this it
reduces the number of freezes quite a bit.  I've tried the latest
firmware but I've still seen the freeze issue.  I hope this helps.

Scott Williams
NOC Engineer
Skyriver Communications, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: gbricaire@bricaire.com [mailto:gbricaire@bricaire.com] Sent:
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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze

Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.

Any advice, anybody??


Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:






Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
traffic for the other CPE's on that AP



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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:07:53 -0400
From: Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze
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yes I've done this and it did work but now some of these are at 1Mbps
and we still see it and some of these are at -68dbm signal
Scott Williams wrote:





When the base freezes up look in turbocell station entries to see
which radio is in a re-transmit loop.  Then log into that
radio and change the transmit rate.  I find that 5.5Mbps works
well, but you may need to go to 2Mbps.  When I've done this it
reduces the number of freezes quite a bit.  I've tried the latest
firmware but I've still seen the freeze issue.  I hope this helps.

Scott Williams
NOC Engineer
Skyriver Communications, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: gbricaire@bricaire.com [mailto:gbricaire@bricaire.com] Sent:
Friday, October 15, 2004 1:42 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] IP Freeze

Same thing happening in my network. I just have 1 isp base, but
still.....it is locking up at least 2 times a day.

Any advice, anybody??


Quoting Dan Metcalf <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>:








Has anybody had any success on fixing the IP freeze bugs? now I am
seeing this on all my AP's 3 times a day, sometimes I have reboot
the AP's myself to fix this... at this point its ruining my
networking as 1 single CPE can take down the entire AP and stop IP
traffic for the other CPE's on that AP



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