At 05:03 AM 5/1/2004, you wrote:
John
I have been reading about this protocol and wanted a clarification, does
it have true polling or are you just changing the ACK
timing??
I don't know what you mean by 'true polling,' -- but what we are doing is
telling a station that it is his turn to send so that he does not go
through the regular 802.11 media access routine. When you say 'changing
the ACK timing,' we have been doing that for more than two years -- we are
talking about a non-802.11 protocol now.
John
www.mikrotik.com
Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202
http://www.demarctech.com
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of John Tully
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:53 AM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
At 06:57 PM 4/29/2004, you wrote:
>John,
>
>I've been a user of MT for some time, and have been very pleased with
>the router (which is our gateway router) and the continual improvements
to same.
>I'm really looking forward to this Nstreme protocol implementation. I have
>a backhaul application, 17 mi. shot, low noise. Currently I'm using KN
>2.4b, and I've outgrown it. I'd like to see at least 20Mbps on this link.
>I'm currently looking at Motorola's Canopy, but I certainly like the
>functionality of your routers, and their ease of use. Do you think
>this new polling protocol/Atheros 5.8GHz radios would work for this
application?
Yes, this is why we started making this protocol -- to get the highest
speed out of a long distance links and overcome the slowdown
that occurs because of the ack-time increasing with the distance of the
link. We also have a number of other things we are putting
in this protocol to speed up the link -- some of these things are coming
from our M3P (MikroTik Packet Packer Protocol) which has
been around for three years or more and was designed to overcome 802.11
protocol problems that occur with small packets (telephony
packets are small).
This protocol is still changing. All of the 'heavy lifting' parts have
been made and now we are just adding little things. I think
we will have something pretty close to the final product in two weeks.
The CPE has to use our RouterOS and any i386 SBC or regular
motherboard. We are working on lower cost solutions, but the time fram
is too far to comment on.
John
www.mikrotik.com
>If it works, I'm also looking at the next step on the PtMP front. What
>do you have in the way of CPEs for Nstreme planned?
>
>Also John, if you'd like to reduce your volume of questions like these,
>why don't you implement a message board much like the StarOS folks
>have? The email MT board is too fragmented to be of much use in
>researching questions like these. (Not completely useless, but much
>less useful than http://forums.star-os.com/ is for StarOS.)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Norm
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
>To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
>
>
> > At 05:13 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >You will have a polling system soon? Please provide more details?
> >
> > Here is the initial document from a test package that you can put on
> > a MikroTik AP/router/client.
> > http://www.mikrotik.com/Documentation/nstreme.pdf
> > Download page:
> > http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
> >
> > There will be some significant changes in the next two weeks, so
> > this is just for testing if you are interested. The Nstreme (TM)
> > protocol also
>has
> > the possibility for two radios (one tx only and one rx only) -- also
> > one radio is supported for the multipoint Nstreme.
> >
> > John
> > www.mikrotik.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > >
> > > > At 02:35 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >John,
> > > > >
> > > > >Have you thought about supporting the KN PC Driver for Linux so
> > > > >you
> > >can
> > > > >setup a Satellite station off a KN TC network?
> > > >
> > > > For 2.4GHz solutions, most people use our AP only and use some
> > > > low
> > >cost
> > > > client solution -- unless they need a very smart router at the
> > > > client,
> > >and
> > > > then they use our client solution also. For 5GHz, people use
> > > > all
> > >MikroTik
> > > > RouterOS products (and usually www.routerboard.com products) for
> > > > a complete high speed solution.
> > > >
> > > > So, I don't think it would be so useful to have KN TC 2.4GHz
> > > > client
> > >only
> > > > support in our system. If the Linux driver includes source,
> > > > then it wouldn't be difficult to add it -- but are many people
> > > > interested in
> > >this?
> > > >
> > > > Also, we will have the so called 'polling' feature soon -- and
> > > > from
> > >what I
> > > > know about the Karlnet TC, ours will have some important
> > > > features that
> > >are
> > > > not in the TC. For example, ours will use multiple rates
> > > > (actually,
> > >ours
> > > > uses the best rate for throughput) -- where I have read that
> > > > with
> > >some/all
> > > > TC versions you have to set only one rate for the AP. Of course
> > > > I am
> > >not
> > > > an expert on TC, so I may be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:56 AM
> > > > >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > >
> > > > >You can do that with a MikroTik RouterOS AP.
> > > > >http://www.mikrotik.com/docs2.8/interface/bridge.main
> > > > >
> > > > >John
> > > > >www.mikrotik.com
> > > > >
> > > > >At 06:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >It's a shame that with 4 interfaces on the KN-200 that you
> > > > > >can't
> > >define
> > > > >L2
> > > > > >bridge groups - For example, define Interfaces 1 & 2 as "Group 1"
> > >and
> > > > > >Interfaces 3 & 4 as "Group 2" so that you can then route
> > > > > >between
> > >Group
> > > > >1 &
> > > > > >Group 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On 2004-04-26 at 10:34 PM Paul Horak wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Anybody know if you can bridge and route on the same radio
> > > > > > >(KN200 in this rather bizarre case :-))? If so, please can
> > > > > > >you share the config? Turning on routing seems to
> > > > > > >automatically deny bridging of IP traffic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Paul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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