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Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
From: Bryan <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:50:18 -0600
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Whooo - glad to here that, I was getting a bit worried
Bryan

Dan Metcalf wrote:

Bryan,

My network goes likes this


<rg1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> -- with customers connected through some of the ap's

we are able to pull a full T1 up and down at the same time across the
links


its all routed though





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On Behalf Of Bryan
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:16 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

It stripped the image...
See text based attempt below - you may have to widen your window to


see


properly
Bryan wrote:



Interesting - I was just getting ready to purchase KN-200s to


resolve


that very same issue, I was using Orinoco AP2000s and having same
problem.  I will hold hold off pending a resultion to your problem -
no sense spending the money for new equipment with same problem.

I proved to Proxim that it wasn't a network congestion problem or a
problem with the internet speed tests by:
1. Setting up an FTP server internal on my network.
2. Shutting off all customers - this wasn't much of an issue as I


was


testing network and only had people that were willing to use for


free,


under the understanding that it could go down at any time.
3. Repeatedly DLing & ULing a 120meg file from server to laptop &
back, at vatious points in the network while watching with DU Meter.

As for your Ping test - it would seem to me that if you are Rxing


~3.4


mbps ROUND TRIP - since thisis  half duplex the one way should be 2x
that or 6.8mbps...?????

Personnally - I don't give rat's @ss about any latency tests or any
other built in tests - Those can be manipulated by the writer of the
software to show favorable results. The only thing a customer, and
therefore myself, cares about is that if they are being sold a


service


at particular speed, they get it.  The only way to prove that is to
have an internal network speed test of some sort.

Here what they told me would support upto 1mbps thruput to customers
at any point in the network (using TC for backhaul on one radio -the
other radio to serve customers)



NOC<>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4200

|                                   |
                                                KN200w/SG4400
KN200w/SG4400
                                                            |
                          |
                                                KN200w/SG4400
     Future
                                                            |
                                                 KN200w/SG4200
Upto 64 backhaul links off any one radio - I was told



Anyone using a network in similiar config, i.e. 4 wireless


backhauls,


that can verify this?

Bryan


jna wrote:




Hello Group,

I am trying to diagnose bad transfer rates in my network and


started at


square 1. We have an RG1000 SAT shooting a 3MB/S feed to a central


relay


tower only about 1 mile from the datacenter (-47db Signal). The


central


relay is running on kn-200 BASE. When I connect to the relay point
via my
laptop I am lucky to see 800K to 1.2MB/S over the net transfers.
Using the
ping fill utility I measure that the transfer rates from the RG1000
SAT to
the KN-200 is an average of 3.2 with a max of 3.6MB/S over the air.
According to the ping fill this should should be sufficent to cary


my


3MB/S
feed but I am not seeing it at the central relay not even half of


it.


I asked Karlnet support about it and they said that is normal


because


the
ping fill shows round trip so my 3.2 to 3.6MB/S transfer to the


relay


point
should on support 1.6 to 1.8MB/S one way (Even though there not


even


seeing
that much). I questioned this and never received a reply back. On


our


main
tower which is still on a T1 I have my home connection to the main
tower via
ping fill shows my average transfer time of 1,271,009 and max of
1,484,160.
Now if we took the half duplex analogy to mean this result is round
trip and
my connection according to ping fill and karlnet should only handle
630K -
742K either up or down, correct? But if this is true then why is it


I


can
register on the bandwidth testing sites using this same connection
double
that actually about what the ping fill says? My average over the


net


connection rating is 1.2MB/S ... Does anyone else have any
information on
the actuall ping fill and if it even works right at all? If the


above


is


true then my 3.2-3.6MB/S link to the relay is accurate should get


me my


3MB/S feed there with no problem.

I cant get answers from karlnet support, does anyone have a clue


here?


Is anyone else using Karlnet for backhauling locations? Are you


able to


backhaul more than a T1?

Thank You,
John

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