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RE: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:36:50 -0500
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Bryan,

My network goes likes this


<rg1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> -- with customers connected through
some of the ap's

we are able to pull a full T1 up and down at the same time across the
links


its all routed though


> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:16 AM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
> 
> It stripped the image...
> See text based attempt below - you may have to widen your window to
see
> properly
> Bryan wrote:
> 
> > Interesting - I was just getting ready to purchase KN-200s to
resolve
> > that very same issue, I was using Orinoco AP2000s and having same
> > problem.  I will hold hold off pending a resultion to your problem -
> > no sense spending the money for new equipment with same problem.
> >
> > I proved to Proxim that it wasn't a network congestion problem or a
> > problem with the internet speed tests by:
> > 1. Setting up an FTP server internal on my network.
> > 2. Shutting off all customers - this wasn't much of an issue as I
was
> > testing network and only had people that were willing to use for
free,
> > under the understanding that it could go down at any time.
> > 3. Repeatedly DLing & ULing a 120meg file from server to laptop &
> > back, at vatious points in the network while watching with DU Meter.
> >
> > As for your Ping test - it would seem to me that if you are Rxing
~3.4
> > mbps ROUND TRIP - since thisis  half duplex the one way should be 2x
> > that or 6.8mbps...?????
> >
> > Personnally - I don't give rat's @ss about any latency tests or any
> > other built in tests - Those can be manipulated by the writer of the
> > software to show favorable results.  The only thing a customer, and
> > therefore myself, cares about is that if they are being sold a
service
> > at particular speed, they get it.  The only way to prove that is to
> > have an internal network speed test of some sort.
> >
> > Here what they told me would support upto 1mbps thruput to customers
> > at any point in the network (using TC for backhaul on one radio -the
> > other radio to serve customers)
> >
> NOC<>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4200
> 
> |                                   |
>                                                  KN200w/SG4400
> KN200w/SG4400
>                                                              |
>                            |
>                                                  KN200w/SG4400
>       Future
>                                                              |
>                                                   KN200w/SG4200
> Upto 64 backhaul links off any one radio - I was told
> 
> >
> > Anyone using a network in similiar config, i.e. 4 wireless
backhauls,
> > that can verify this?
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > jna wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Group,
> >>
> >> I am trying to diagnose bad transfer rates in my network and
started at
> >> square 1. We have an RG1000 SAT shooting a 3MB/S feed to a central
> relay
> >> tower only about 1 mile from the datacenter (-47db Signal). The
central
> >> relay is running on kn-200 BASE. When I connect to the relay point
> >> via my
> >> laptop I am lucky to see 800K to 1.2MB/S over the net transfers.
> >> Using the
> >> ping fill utility I measure that the transfer rates from the RG1000
> >> SAT to
> >> the KN-200 is an average of 3.2 with a max of 3.6MB/S over the air.
> >> According to the ping fill this should should be sufficent to cary
my
> >> 3MB/S
> >> feed  but I am not seeing it at the central relay not even half of
it.
> >>
> >> I asked Karlnet support about it and they said that is normal
because
> >> the
> >> ping fill shows round trip so my 3.2 to 3.6MB/S transfer to the
relay
> >> point
> >> should on support 1.6 to 1.8MB/S one way (Even though there not
even
> >> seeing
> >> that much). I questioned this and never received a reply back. On
our
> >> main
> >> tower which is still on a T1 I have my home connection to the main
> >> tower via
> >> ping fill shows my average transfer time of 1,271,009 and max of
> >> 1,484,160.
> >> Now if we took the half duplex analogy to mean this result is round
> >> trip and
> >> my connection according to ping fill and karlnet should only handle
> >> 630K -
> >> 742K either up or down, correct? But if this is true then why is it
I
> >> can
> >> register on the bandwidth testing sites using this same connection
> >> double
> >> that actually about what the ping fill says? My average over the
net
> >> connection rating is 1.2MB/S ... Does anyone else have any
> >> information on
> >> the actuall ping fill and if it even works right at all? If the
above
> is
> >> true then my 3.2-3.6MB/S link to the relay is accurate should get
me my
> >> 3MB/S feed there with no problem.
> >>
> >> I cant get answers from karlnet support, does anyone have a clue
here?
> >>
> >> Is anyone else using Karlnet for backhauling locations? Are you
able to
> >> backhaul more than a T1?
> >>
> >> Thank You,
> >> John
> >>
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