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Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base

To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@bextreme.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:16:35 -0600
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http://www.trangobroadband.com/Products/pricing.cfm

3-mile SU $495
10-mile SU  $595
AP $895

But, they are ready to install....not customizations necessary.  Plug in the
RJ-45, twist the compression fitting, secure to tower, forget about it.  I
don't think I'd use them for residential but for SOHO and up ($100/mo and up
accounts).  I'll eat a little to get the advantages of this radio
(dual-polarizations, selectable radio power, rf monitor, hardened chipsets,
FCC certed, etc.)

-bob.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base


> What kind of a price are you getting for the APs & SUs now?
> Last time I checked they were still about $500 for the SUs.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:27 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
>
>
> Backhauls now....CPE's next week.  We deployed them as backhauls initially
> and REALLY like them (except for their 10-mile dishes but we are fixing
that
> with some radiowaves 2' dishes).  Trango is due to release some new gear
in
> march that (from the sounds of it) should kick the pants off anything out
> there.  They recently dropped their prices as well.  It really is good
> stuff.  Very much like some of the TC stuff though....high latency until
the
> link is utilized decently but they did do some ptp fixes in the recent fw
> release.  If there is a single SU configured, it doesn't poll and you'll
get
> 2ms- latency.
>
> We have one trango AP and 2 10-mile SU's at this point but I've got a P.O.
> for 4 AP's and 10 CPE's.  I'm sold on the gear.  Cheap reliable and
6-7mbps.
> (good, fast and cheap!)
>
> -bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
>
>
> > How do you like those Trango units?
> > I was pretty impressed with the Trango & Waverider equipment at
WISPCON2.
> > Are you only using them for backhaul units only?
> > Do ya have any APs out there with CPE?
> >
> > Nate
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:06 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > Hmm, I've got an AP-1000 setup like this..
> >
> > internet ~~~~trango~~~AP-1000~~~~~AP-1000~~~~Rg-1000  All routed but I
see
> > 33-40 ms pings. 14 customers
> >
> > at another site I have
> >
> > internet ~~~~trango~~~ap-1000~~~RG-1000cpe   Bridged, I see 3 - 10 ms
ping
> > times.  36 customers
> >
> >
> > I wonder how much your latency will drop.
> >
> >
> > -bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > > I usually get about 300-600Kbps.
> > > And my ping times from my house are around 14-22ms. But that is going
> > across
> > > my trusty Breezecom Pro.11 equipment to get there first... So Im not a
> > good
> > > candidate for latency since i have a extra hop or so. But we are going
> to
> > > replace it with the AP1000 pretty soon and then we will be able to see
> if
> > > the throughput increases or not.
> > >
> > > At times the throughput might go down to 200Kbps. But since we are
> selling
> > > 128Kb connections it isnt that big of a problem. The clients dont see
> any
> > > problem.. Just the guys that try to squeeze as much out of it as we
> can..
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:41 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > >
> > >
> > > 20 users on an RG-1000 huh??? what is your throughput like?  How about
> > > latency (pings)?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > > To: <mark@ekiva.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:32 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > >
> > >
> > > > We have a RG-1000 that is running Turbocell v 3.88 and it doesn't
have
> > the
> > > 8
> > > > user limitation that the newer versions have.
> > > > We have 20 users on this base station and it runs just fine.
> > > > So there is something in the software that is stopping us from
adding
> > more
> > > > then 8 on the a RG. Otherwise we would probably upgrade our
licenses.
>
> > But
> > > we
> > > > will just upgrade it with a AP-1000 instead.
> > > >
> > > > Nate
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:38 PM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That has nothing to do with it.  A 486 running that lean of an OS
can
> > > > support more than 8 subscribers easily.  KarlNet does not allow more
> > > > than 8 subscribers most likely so you will be required to get more
> > > > expensive hardware.  They must have some deal with Proxim so users
> will
> > > > be forced to upgrade to the AP-1000 if they want to support more
> > > > subscribers.  It is purely a marketing strategy.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301
> > > > 970-749-2711  http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> > > > > Chia Sheng Wu
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the RG only has a x486 processor
> > > > >
> > > > > -Charles
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:24 PM
> > > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anybody advise what the Client limit is on an RG1000 with
> > > > > ISP Base load.
> > > > >
> > > > > I assume it is 8 x subscribers, but want to know if that is a
> > > > > physical limitation at the MAC level or a performance
> > > > > recommendation that can be over subscribed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > Andrew
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