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RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC.

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC...
From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
Reply-to: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:10:11 -0500
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
We mainly use Flashrom setups.
But we do have a couple 200mW radios in RG's though.
When we see an SNR of 1 it is usually because we have a problem with 
that link. Either the pigtail isn't seated properly or has vibrated 
loose. I have seen everything from loose pigtails to radio cards that 
are not seated properly.
We have our radios all outdoor mounted and in some kinda strange 
places.
At times there is allot of vibration from big equipment so vibration 
is our worst enemy. And silicone is my friend.... ;-)

But to answer your question.. We have seen the low SNR but it has 
always been fixed and the SNR has jumped back up.
But at first we thought it was a bogus reading. But then the link 
would drop off every now and then.... So it kinda makes me think that 
the readings are correct.

Nate

> NATE,
> 
> I have the SNR 1 often w/ any non-lucent cards in the ap's, & rg's.  
are
> you using an ap or an rg?
> 
> 
> Dan Metcalf
> Wireless Broadband Sytems
> dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
> www.wirelessbroadbandsystems.com
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Nate McLain
> > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:28 AM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal 
or
> > noise w/TC...
> > 
> > We have mikrotik 200mW radios in the field and they seem to report
> > everything correctly.
> > If the readings are right...
> > But you dont get the SNR of 1 unless the signal and noise are at 
the
> > right levels.
> > 
> > I would like to hear from Karlnet on the subject as well.
> > Are the readings that the mikrotik cards put out correct?
> > Just curious.
> > 
> > 
> > Nate
> > 
> > 
> > > Ok, but with one clarification, _both_ signal and noise are not
> > reported
> > > correctly.  It would be very nice if TC could read the card, or a
> > firmware
> > > fix could make it so.  Do you know the status of other PRISM 2.5
> > card as to
> > > this reporting problem, ie; the Mikrotik 250mW cards?   Do they
> > report the
> > > signal/noise levels correctly to TC?   If so, then it's a matter 
of
> > getting
> > > the card manufacturer's firmware to adhere to this standard.   I
> > wonder if
> > > Doug could chime in here to confirm that this is a firmware 
problem
> > with the
> > > card?   Does Karlnet have a fix for this card?
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:24 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or
> > noise
> > > w/TC...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > > This is correct, I believe Doug posted this is other day.  TC 
does
> > not
> > > > report noise level as the firmware on all Prism cards do not
> > report it
> > > > yet.  From what I have been told the card can do it if the
> > firmware is
> > > > change seems like a simple request, still looking into this.
> > > >
> > > > In the mean time we put in a request to grey out the s/n and 
noise
> > > > readings as not to confuse things.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > > Tony Morella
> > > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
> > admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:45 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or 
noise
> > > > w/TC...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tony, I tried your 100mW PRISM 2.5 cards in TC v4.02/AP-
1000/SA-
> > 4400,
> > > > and while the signal gains at the CPE's were impressive (7-8dB
> > reported
> > > > from the CPE Orinoco radio on average), the reporting from the
> > PRISM 2.5
> > > > card was, well, non-existent.  All of my CPEs are reported to 
have
> > a S/N
> > > > of 1, signal -94, noise, -95.  Obviously bogus, obviously not
> > reported
> > > > correctly by the card, or correctly interpreted by Karlnet TC.
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:38 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Larry
> > > > >
> > > > > This is correct at this time, I have not received a update on
> > whether
> > > > > or not SEC will be supported on the Prism chip.  Doug any
> > comments on
> > > > > this??
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely
> > > > > Tony Morella
> > > > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
> > admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:24 PM
> > > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So you are stating that you can't even run 100mw cards in SEC
> > mode in
> > > > > a PC running a karlnet flash-rom kit?  This sounds worse 
than I
> > had
> > > > > thought.  I was really hoping to stay with Karlnet for it's 
nice
> > > > > client signal monitoring capability.  But I really need to 
get
> > cards
> > > > > with more juice than 35mw and I really DON'T want to resort 
to
> > AMPs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------
-
> > > > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > > > Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:06:08 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > > >Larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Your request is for SEC which is not an option under the 
prism
> > cards,
> > > >
> > > > > >SEC only works for Orinoco cards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sincerely
> > > > > >Tony Morella
> > > > > >Demarc Technology Group
> > > > > >Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > > >Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > > >Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > > >email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > > >http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > >Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > > >On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > > > >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hmm... I could have sworn that there were a few guys that 
had
> > the
> > > > > >AP-1000's running in Turbocell mode with the prism cards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Here is what I need:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Some sort of hardware suitable for tower mounting 
(lightweight,
> > > > > >weather
> > > > >
> > > > > >resistant, Power-over-ethernet, etc, etc)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Karlnet SEC BASE
> > > > > >three 100mw Cards (to run 3 sector antennas)
> > > > > >one standard 35mw Lucent Silver/Gold Card (to run backhaul 
to
> > NOC
> > > > > >cross-polarized and 25ft vertical separation from the 
sectors)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Does anyone market a 4-PCMCIA-slot SBC's with Karlnet
> > firmware?  Or
> > > > > >maybe I'll just need to get two 2-PCMCIA slot SBC's with
> > Karlnet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Anyway... if Karlnet has any suggestions or if any vendors
> > would like
> > > >
> > > > > >to contact me off-list, I'm looking for a solution!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >---------- Original Message --------------------------------
--
> > > > > >From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:47:59 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>The higher output radios don't work in the AP-1000.  The
> > hardware
> > > > > >>isn't
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>setup to handle the power.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Doug Harman
> > > > > >>KarlNet, Inc.
> > > > > >>525 Metro Place North
> > > > > >>Suite 100
> > > > > >>Dublin, OH 43017
> > > > > >>614 822-5275 x 123
> > > > > >>614 822-0024 fax
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >>> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > > >>> Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > > >>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> > > > > >>> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >>> Subject: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Has anyone had any luck running the AP1000 in 802.11b 
mode
> > with
> > > > > >>> non-lucent cards.  I'm hoping to find a 100mw solution, 
but
> > it has
> > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>> be 802.11b mode NOT Turbocell.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Does the Karlnet SEC Base software let me do this?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > Nate McLain
> > Chisholm Trail Networks LLC
> > nate@ctrail.net
> > http://www.ctrail.net
> > 580-401-6656
> > 405-880-2795
> > 
> > "Bringing broadband Internet Access to rural America!!"
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Nate McLain
Chisholm Trail Networks LLC
nate@ctrail.net
http://www.ctrail.net
580-401-6656
405-880-2795

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