Brian,
You are right when you say that there are SEVERAL Cabrillo formats. It is
my understanding that the SIZE of some fields EVEN CHANGE from CONTEST to
CONTEST. What a mess!
I also heard from at least one programmer of a very popular Logging program
(with contest support) that the ARRL did not EVEN consult with him at ALL
before announcing the Cabrillo format (despite the fact that his popular
program has been advertised in QST for many years!)
In my view, it would have been a lot better if the ARRL used ADIF. With
ADIF, you can easily add NEW tags to accommodate any specific reporting
requirements dictated by the rules of any present or FUTURE contest.
ADIF is very easy to use and implement.
It is likely Cabrillo will be just one big headache to those who write
contest programs (but it will likely give them some extra revenue selling
updates to their programs for Cabrillo support).
But I suspect that most software developers of contest programs would prefer
to spend their time developing new features than spending their time
implementing ALL the Cabrillo formats for the various contests. Would you
agree Ken??
Perhaps, if enough HAM's and software developers complain, the ARRL will
change it mind on Cabrillo. We can only hope.
73's
Rob
>From: Brian Alsop <alsopb@gloryroad.net>
>Reply-To: Brian Alsop <alsopb@gloryroad.net>
>To: Gary Yantis <gyantis@midtec.com>, ct-user@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [ct-user] Re:iaru Cabrillo
To: <ct-user@contesting.com>
>Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 16:34:39 -0400
>
>
>What about some person writing a small standalone program which converts
>a *.all file to cabrillo file? The problem as I see it is that there
>are several Cabrillo formats-- and probably more to come when they
>determine what was overlooked for the hugh number of contests today.
>
>It would be far easier to modify the standalone program to follow the
>changes than CT. It has the hope of handling older CT version files as
>well.
>
>In fact, why not include it with the auxiliary CT programs like the ADIF
>converter?
>
>73 de Brian/K3KO
>
>Gary Yantis wrote:
> >
> > Joe --
> > It looks like an unintended side benefit of Cabrillo to those that sell
> > contesting software will be (in the case of CT) everyone using
pre-version
> > 9.xx and the even older CT shareware will have to purchase the latest
> > version if they wish to continue to submit their scores electronically
to
> > ARRL. Although it looks like, with a lot of text editing, you can do
your
> > own from the files that CT generates now. Perhaps others like CQ have
also
> > picked up Cabrillo for 2001 and beyond but I haven't been following that
too
> > closely. Also, separate from the Cabrillo issue, important rule and
scoring
> > changing have been included in 9.xx for contests like WPX, FD and others
> > that won't be available for the earlier versions and CT shareware. It
is my
> > understanding that Ken has not, as yet, updated all of the contest files
in
> > CT to fully comply with Cabrillo. But I believe he plans to have this
done
> > before the first contest that requires Cabrillo. I think that is the
ARRL
> > SS contest in November but I may be mistaken. The IARU contest run by
the
> > ARRL does not require Cabrillo this year but will next year.
> >
> > 73
> > Gary, W0TM
> > gary@W0TM.com
> > @9,000 feet 20 miles West of Vail, Colorado
> > Please visit my Web site www.W0TM.com to view pictures of my station and
the
> > mountains of Colorado
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ct-user@contesting.com
> > [mailto:owner-ct-user@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Joseph Agius
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 6:11 AM
> > To: ct-user@contesting.com
> > Subject: [ct-user] Re:iaru Cabrillo
> >
> > I am using ver 4.7 CT.
> > My 'call.txt' file only has header information for this contest - no
> > Cabrillo
> > file.
> > Is this implemented in this version for iaru?
> >
> > I used this previously for arrl dx and it generted a correct Cabrillo
file.
> >
> > Joe
> > W1TW
> >
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