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Re: [CQ-Contest] DXCC cheating using out-of-country remotes

To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DXCC cheating using out-of-country remotes
From: Kelly Taylor via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@me.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:38:08 -0600
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Considering a DXCC plaque with a full set of endorsements, plus $1.99, will get 
you a cup of coffee… I don’t understand the attraction in cheating. It doesn’t 
get you a free trip to a WRTC. It doesn’t get you a brand new IC-7760. It only 
gets you bragging rights, rights you know are false.

SMH.

73, kelly, ve4xt 

> On Jan 20, 2026, at 5:55 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been a ham since 1978, but I realize many of you have been licensed 
> longer (or some, shorter).
> The first time I “realized” that hams cheated at DXing was in the late 1980’s 
> on 6M. (call me naïve)
> 
> For a cpl yrs there was a 7-land station (in a CN/CM grid iirc), that had 
> some kind of remote (via 56k twisted pair I am guessing) and he would 
> transmit from somewhere in W1 land (we think Maine, but not sure as we didn’t 
> always hear him) and he’d work the 6M EU openings that VE1YX, VE1ZZ(sk), 
> myself, etc would get on F2.
> 
> It blew my mind that people could be like that, but after a few times I 
> decided that they’re only cheating themselves and if they wanted to rack up 
> the country count or whatever, it was on them, not me. They are the ones that 
> have to sleep at night and look at the guy in the mirror the next morning.
> 
> Some years back there were 1 or maybe 2 I-stations that I seemed to work in 
> some of the 160M  contests.  One time a QSO happened at HIGH NOON in Italy 
> and they were 20/9 here while I was looking for W7’s and KH6’s on greyline/SR 
> here in NB.  Since I knew it was completely impossible, I didn’t log them.
> 
> Nowadays I just log whatever and move on. I barely do any DXing these days. 
> (can’t be bothered) and most of what I do is the larger contests.  I just log 
> what they send and don’t worry if they are cheating with power, remote or 
> anything else.  It still bothers me, but much less than before.
> 
> It's like when I see a motorcycle go past my house at 100MPH.
> 
> It’s on them.
> 
> 73 de Mike VE9AA
> ================
> 
> This actually doesn't belong on the contest reflector, but to answer your
> question, no and no.
> 
> A recently deceased officer in ARI (the Italian amateur radio
> organization), frequently remoted into his house in VP2V to work Pacific
> DXpeditions.
> 
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
> 
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 9:06 AM Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure this isn't a new problem, but it's pretty obvious with the current
>> KP5 operation.
>> 
>> Listening to the pileups, I've heard a number of European callsigns calling
>> the KP5 on the high bands during the USA evening, with loud signals here in
>> Colorado, when the band is not open to Europe.  Obviously they are using
>> remotes in N. America.
>> 
>> Clearly this destroys the integrity of the DXCC program.  Does anyone
>> care?  Is anything being done to address it?
>> 
>> Barry W2UP
> 
> Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada 
> 
> 
> 
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