This discussion is assuming good band conditions and a strong signal. With
weaker signals, QSB & QRM, I often only hear enough of my callsign to know it
was me. But experience shows that even the “skilled” ops report my prefix as N4
rather than K4.
If the running op gets it wrong, then he has a NIL in his log. The entire time
spent with the QSO is lost. Is that worth it?
This is why I frequently follow the suggestion to reply with my callsign again
or to give it as part of the exchange. Either will correct my call in his log,
but may be considered a delay if he actually had it right.
Stan, K4SBZ
"Real radio bounces off the sky."
> On Feb 18, 2025, at 11:37 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> One does not argue with the wisdom from A Boy & His Radio.
>
> And no wisecracks regarding Hans being that boy.
>
> 73, Ron W3WN
>
>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 4:39 PM, Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Once delayed is a smart way to beat a pileup.
>>
>> Calling twice is deliberate QRM.
>>
>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on
>> behalf of Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 12:40 PM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>; Mike Smith VE9AA
>> <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - what the heck?
>>
>> Consider this Mike:
>> You call "CQ TEST" (in one form or another).
>> 5 dozen people who haven't worked you all call you back immediately.
>> 1 person sends their call either a second time right after the pileup... or
>> once, delayed.
>> Now, what call are you likely to notice first?
>> 73, ron w3wn
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 08:43:25 AM EST, Mike Smith VE9AA
>> <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I've done the ARRL DX CW many times. (and do most of the majors;
>> CQWW,WPX,WAE,RDX many many times)
>>
>> Is some institution in EU (or some popular EU logging software) instructing
>> EU's to call you with their callsign twice?
>> (or if I am running, they'll again put their callsign in their message when
>> they come back to me yet one more time?
>>
>> I am hesitant to even complain (make note of is more like it) as they made
>> up 86.6% of my log this weekend (TU EU!!) but this weekend more than ever
>> before in my decades on the bands did I have (what seemed like) every 8th or
>> 9th caller doing this at times(maybe more at times). I ran anywhere from
>> 34wpm to 40wpm (mostly 38wpm) this weekend and especially on the high bands
>> I was coming back to the loudest guy just as soon as they had sent their
>> callsign ONCE. Occasionally when my rig was just going into TX, I'd catch
>> part of a CW character telling me they had sent their call again. No
>> response (I doubled with them)
>>
>> Thank goodness for the "=" key in N1MMLogger+ (repeats last message sent) I
>> about wore it out.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> VE9AA “NB”
>>
>> Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada
>>
>>
>>
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