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Re: [CQ-Contest] CWT Virus has spread to ARRL 10M - WPX next?

To: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>, Jeff Blaine <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CWT Virus has spread to ARRL 10M - WPX next?
From: jimk8mr--- via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "jimk8mr@aol.com" <jimk8mr@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 14:15:11 +0000 (UTC)
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 Or if you're calling a station sending cut numbers, take a few extra seconds 
before sending him your report. After all, it does take some thought to 
translate those letters into numbers!  And then maybe slow down by 15 wpm for 
your exchange. 

Seventy Three  -   Jim   K8MR

    On Friday, December 20, 2024 at 09:04:19 AM EST, Jeff Blaine 
<keepwalking188@ac0c.com> wrote:   

 It seems like there is some self-limiting effect in their use because 
it's going to cause an amount of additional requests for repeat and 
confusion which would likely cause the use of cut numbers without limit 
to be not worth the use at the extremes. Especially as speeds go up, 
signal conditions get poorer and if the sending station is running a 
more modest setup.

I don't much like the cut numbers but that's simply a reflection of my 
CW skill.  My solution would be to improve my CW skill if this was an 
issue as their use is not prohibited.  Fortunately N1MM does a fine job 
of letting me log what's copied so I don't have to do the additional 
mental remapping of letter-to-numeral on the fly making it all 
manageable in the practical sense.

73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com

On 12/19/2024 10:47 AM, Hans Brakob wrote:
> Why all the cyclical kerfuffle about cut numbers? They’ve been around since 
> Moby Dick was a minnow, and roll into my log naturally (and faster than) the 
> “complete” numeral.
>
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on 
> behalf of john@kk9a.com <john@kk9a.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:07:58 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CWT Virus has spread to ARRL 10M - WPX next?
>
> What is a CWT Virus?  I have never operated CWT, according to rules there
> are no serial numbers in the exchange.
>
> Cut serial number have been used on CW for as long as I can remember.  I am
> not a fan of them but I do not think this is something that should be
> prohibited in the rules.  No one wants cut number QSOs removed from their
> log. Certain commonly used cut numbers can be effective for power levels in
> the ARRL DX, for CQ zones and of course RST.
>
> John  KKnA
>
>
> Jpescatore K3TN wrote:
>
> A few months ago, after remotely opping OZ5W as part of a MM in the SAC CW
> and running into cut numbers in variable serial numbers, I reached out to
> the ARRL, WPX and CA QP test to recommend prohibiting cut numbers in non ST
> exchange fields.
> Saw them quite a bit in the 10M ARRL this past weekend. I think CQ WPX CW is
> next big one with serial number - still time to avoid EE5E send dit  dah dit
> dah dit    dit  dit  dit  dit  towards the end of the weekend...
> The N1MM entry window parser will convert most of the letters if you type
> what you hear, but I'd rather see rates increase by higher speed at both end
> vs. shorter exchanges. Current rules vary about what happens if you do
> submit log with alpha characters in serial number field.
> 73 John K3TN
>
>
>  
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