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Re: [CQ-Contest] AI for SSB RBN

To: "ktfrog007@aol.com" <ktfrog007@aol.com>, CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] AI for SSB RBN
From: Tom Frenaye <frenaye@pcnet.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 21:57:22 -0500
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Ken/AB1J -

I think the problem with that suggestion, at least in the USA, is that digital 
modes are not permitted in the phone segments (but image/SSTV is OK there).

Maybe a very high speed CW burst would substitute...

  73 Tom/K1KI

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Tom Frenaye, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093. c: 860-597-4539 h: 860-668-5444




On 11/4/24, 7:15 PM, "CQ-Contest on behalf of ktfrog007--- via CQ-Contest" 
<cq-contest-bounces+frenaye=pcnet.com@contesting.com 
<mailto:pcnet.com@contesting.com> on behalf of cq-contest@contesting.com 
<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>> wrote:


If AI can't do voice recognition well enough it should be possible to encode 
sub-audible digital call signs and perhaps other data into SSB transmissions 
which would then be grabbed by skimmers. This could work for analog or digital 
voice.


73,
Ken, AB1J
On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 03:53:21 PM UTC, K3ZJ David Siddall 
<davek3zj@gmail.com <mailto:davek3zj@gmail.com>> wrote: 


I can think of at least two possible paths forward.


(1) Apple's Siri, Amazon's Alexa, and Google's Assistant (there are others)
are very good at understanding what I say, as well as what visitors with
various accents say. With proper legal rights to one of these, or to a
similar program, probably little new technology is needed for an SSB RBN
although development would be non-trivial and might be limited to use of an
approved list of phonetics.


(2) Digital voice -- which is more spectrum efficient and clearer -- might
be easier to decode for RBN purposes.


73, Dave K3ZJ






On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 7:35 AM <info@bokverket.com <mailto:info@bokverket.com>> 
wrote:


> "IMHO, using AI in it's current state to try and catch these is overkill."
>
> I do hope that most readers of this group realized that my suggesting using
> AI do decode SSB calls on RBN was not meant to combat the few instances of
> spam. Rather, to point out that AI could probably accomplish what RBN has
> done for CW contesting and non-contesting.
>
> Whether this is a step forward och backward is in the ears of the receiver
> :-)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Goran, SM0DRD
>
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