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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"

To: Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"
From: PY2NY <py2ny.vitor@gmail.com>
Reply-to: py2ny@arrl.net
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:53:21 -0300
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Hi
I am ALWAYS dealing with QRN/QRM in Jaboticabal and this
is why my busted calls list is giant.
Sorry guys!
See you next weekend. [ Vitor ]
.
..
...
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PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/



Em qui., 29 de fev. de 2024 às 15:49, Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
escreveu:

> My feeling is that many times the station I am answering is dealing with
> QRM and doesn't hear or notice I have their call incorrect.
>
> Even more often, especially when asking them to repeat the call again, I
> suspect they are not able to copy CW well enough to understand the
> request.  They know we are asking for something so they send the report
> again.
>
> All part of the game...
>
> Randy K5ZD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of kq2m@kq2m.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 11:24 AM
> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, this IS annoying.  My experience has been that in a large % of cases,
> I actually have to KNOW that the callsign is incorrect in order to repeat
> their call with ? and then hope that they come back with their correct
> call.  If they don't respond I try a 2nd time and even a 3rd time.  If they
> still have not come back with their call then I send NIL and remove the qso
> from my log.  What a waste of time and effort all because they can't spend
> 5 seconds giving me their callsign again!
>
> The question is WHY are they not responding to their call (or similar
> call) with a ?
>
> Do they not understand what I am asking?
> Have they already left the freq. because they did not want to wait an
> extra few seconds to hear me confirm the qso?
> Did they not hear my request?  (QRM, QRN, etc.?) Did they not care whether
> I got their callsign correct or not?
>
> I don't know.
>
> So many times I send CL? and instead of their callsign they send their
> report.  Huh?
>
> It's all frustrating.
>
> On SSB I say "Callsign?"  or "Callsign again?"  Usually there is no
> response.
> And then I have to delete that qso from my log.
>
> Now compound that with the incessant callers qrming my request for their
> callsign and it gets even more annoying.
>
> Unfortunately, people with poor operating practices and not caring about
> whether I get their call correct or not, also don't care that there in now
> a KQ2M NIL in their LCR months after the contest.  I don't know what the
> answer is. There shouldn't be any people that don't respond to "Callsign?"
> or "CL?" on cw.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, KQ2M
>
>
> On 2024-02-29 06:33, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> > To all serious contesters:
>
> > I have no complaints. Overall I am pretty happy with my performance
> > but am wondering about the growing list of "incorrect calls" that I
> > have this year.
> > I am always looking to improve.
>
> > I am 'about' where I am every big contest. 1.4% error and 4.7% score
> > reduction.  I have seen it a little less, but this was a long test at
> > nearly
> > 3900 Q's
>
> > It's the list of 38 "incorrect calls" I have that I am curious about.
> > I
> > mostly ran and was unassisted, so I need to work on copying calls
> > correctly(that much is obvious) . Some calls had more than one
> > typo/error in them but as the runner I sent these busted calls back to
> > the caller and nobody corrected me?!
> >
> > Is this because they are not affected(score-wise) if I butcher their
> > call?
> > (am I understanding that correctly?)
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this trend?
>
> > Mike VE9AA (btw, I am not KE9AA, there are no VA9's, no 2x1 VE9 calls
> > and VE8AA is not a contester)
>
> > Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada
> >
> >
> >
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