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Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed

To: "n2icarrl@gmail.com" <n2icarrl@gmail.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed
From: K8MR via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:38:38 +0000 (UTC)
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But as I mentioned in an earlier post, the 10 minute band change rule rears its 
ugly head. Are the logs for the M/2 stations, both real multis and disguised 
SO/A, checked and adjusted for band change violations?  Are the SO/A "multis" 
adhering to a 10 hour operating time limit?

Whatever, I believe the NAQP would do well to drop the 10 minute band change 
rule for multis and in its place adopt an X band changes per hour rule. 
Possibly counting band changes for the two stations combined, so one station 
could be running on one band while the second station could be bouncing around 
the bands using up all the band changes for chasing multipliers or making small 
runs.

73  -  Jim   K8MR



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 9, 2021 9:59 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed

There is already a de facto single-op, assisted category. It's all the M/2
entries that are listed with a single callsign. If someone wants to create
a website to break out those entries and send plaques and/or certificates,
go for it.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 3:46 PM Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
wrote:

> If the majority of operators feel the same way about NAQP, then I suppose
> a change would be justified.  My interests do not take priority over
> others'.  But I'd put a much different spin on the conversation.  The idea
> is not to punitively force assisted into M2, the idea is to have a contest
> that generally does not use assistance.  I am glad that there are still a
> few of these around, just like Stew Perry.  There are certainly plenty
> which include assistance.  Low power and no assistance is what makes this
> contest different, and for me, fun.
>
> "Without assistance, operating becomes a deadly boring sequence of tune,
> copy, type the call in, be told it's a dupe, and repeat."
>
> That sentence really surprised me.  What one describes as boring is to me
> a core skill of contesting.  Doing this quickly *IS* contesting to me,
> particularly in most of my years with much smaller stations.  And it is
> still easier unassisted with modern logging tools, because one can maintain
> a bandmap.  (I've been surprised to find how many folks don't do this.)
>
> I really hope we don't make all contests the same in these regards.
>
> 73,
> Drew K3PA
>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 08:21:05 -0400
> From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> To: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed
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> Now that this running is behind us, the organizers need to seriously
> consider a change in the rules.
>
> It is unnecessary, and downright punitive, to push assisted single ops
> into Multi-2, instead of creating a separate single op assisted category.
> Many of us, with limited antennas (see HOAs) can only S&P.
> Without assistance, operating becomes a deadly boring sequence of tune,
> copy, type the call in, be told it's a dupe, and repeat.
>
> The rule now consigns assisted ops to submergence in the multi-op
> category, when it would be so simple to create a single-op assisted
> category. It's certainly not in the interest of expanding NAQP
> participation to continue punishing assisted ops this way.? Time to act!
>
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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