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Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A

To: "'John Laney'" <k4bai@att.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A
From: "Sam Ferris" <ve5sf@sasktel.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 21:44:51 -0600
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Hmmm.  Technically there is nothing stopping someone who operates the 9A 
contest from sending that same log for the RAC time contest period to be 
counted for the RAC contest.  I already have one, although the DL op asked that 
it be considered a checklog.  As long as the entry category and time period of 
the log - this year Dec 19, 2020 is correct (exchange) a 9A log could also 
count for RAC Winter.  Ops don't have to work Canadians to enter and the base 
mult for entries with no Canadian mults  is 1, not 0.  Have not worked the 9A 
contest in quite some time, but if the exchange is just signal report and 
serial number for non-Canadian entrants, then presumably the log could be 
considered.

Sometimes the RAC winter contest goes before the typical NA holiday period, 
with the date being selected to avoid Dec 24, 25, 26 and 31.

Sam
VE5SF
RAC Canada Winter Contest Manager.

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+ve5sf=sasktel.net@contesting.com] 
On Behalf Of John Laney
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:03 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A

A lot of the European and especially eastern European contests give credit for 
QSOs only if both stations send in a log.  I was concerned that I may have 
wrongly decided which contest one or two stations were in this weekend and may 
have cost them a lost QSO or penalty.  I kept two separate logs, but it wasn't 
easy if a station called me after I sent CQ RAC or if I called a TEST station 
who didn't say which contest he was in.  Generally, on Saturday when the 
contests overlapped, I had to assume that an European and particularly an 
eastern European station was in the 9A contest if I was calling him.  If he 
called me after I called CQ RAC and he was really in the 9A contest, I guess he 
assumed to risk.  73, John, K4BAI.

On 12/19/2020 8:02 PM, Dan Violette wrote:
> I suspect if you do not turn in an RAC log they will be uniques at worst.  
> You being in more than one log submitted they won't even be that.  They will 
> be counted as good QSOs (which they actually were).
>
> Dan KI6X
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest 
> <cq-contest-bounces+danki6x=socal.rr.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
> Steve Bookout
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:37 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A
>
> Scott,
>
> I was in the 9A contest on/off today.  I specifically set my CQ message to 
> '9A test NR4M NR4M' to dissuade people in the RAC from calling me. After the 
> 3rd VE, I just entered '001' instead of 'ON', 'SK' or whatever.  N1MM didn't 
> like what they sent and I didn't feel like arguing with them.
>
> Then, I changed my 'TU' message to 'TU NR4M 9A TEST', and still got 
> RAC contestants.  There were also US stations sending me serial 
> numbers of
> 300 plus.  Find that hard to believe that were in the 9A contest.  I'm quite 
> sure these were people just clicking on spots and didn't have the ability to 
> actually copy what I was sending.
>
> There surely will be a bunch of NIL's.
>
> 73 de Steve, NR4M
>
> On 12/19/2020 5:30 PM, K9MA wrote:
>
>> It's too bad these contests overlap, and that the exchanges are so 
>> similar. Not all those calling CQ specify which one they are in. 
>> There surely will be a lot of NIL penalties.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Scott K9MA
>>
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