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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 215, Issue 28
From: Kenny Johns <ham.wn8y@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 19:53:10 -0600
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart

I tried a friends during a contest. and  Immediately purchased my first
set. Started my comparison of the Heil Pro Elite vs CM500 .  I really enjoy
the CM500.  So  at Ebay  found  a  new CM500 for  $52.00, second set and
now the Heil are back in the box.
And that works for me.

So what causes the deterioration of the pad material and what would extend
their life.

Aloe vera, olive  oil?

Ken
WN8Y

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>    1. Re: WPX Single Op Rules (Victor A)
>    2. Re: Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart (jimk8mr@aol.com)
>    3. Re: WPX Single Op Rules (Jeff Clarke)
>    4. Re: Proposed rules for all contests (PY2NY)
>    5. Re: Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart (Joe)
>    6. Re: Proposed rules for all contests (Martin, LU5DX)
>    7. Re: Rule Changes for the CQ WW WPX SSB and CW Contests
>       (Dave Lawley)
>    8. Distributed Multi in WPX Is a Terrible Idea! (Jim Brown)
>    9. Re: Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart (Larry Pace)
>   10. WPX Rule changes (beaudoin)
>   11. Re: Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart (Mike Ricketts)
>   12. Re: Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart (Michael Adams (N1EN))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:02:17 -0500
> From: Victor A <victor.androsov@gmail.com>
> To: Bud Trench <aa3b.bud@gmail.com>
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX Single Op Rules
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> Bud,
>
>
> Thanks for the great changes in WPX rules by removing assisted and
> non-assisted definitions for single Ops! Finally we've come to realize that
> we live in 21st century and no need to hunt on mamonts anymore.))) I would
> like the same to be done for CQ WW and to all the ARRL contests. One more
> thing could be very useful to save our very old HAM Radio contesters
> population - to limit single op operation hours to 36 hours in all the 48
> hours events as that done for WPX. That should be a competition of skill
> and not physical endurance.
>
> 73!
>
> Victor
> VA2WA
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 13:30, Bud Trench <aa3b.bud@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The revised WPX rules fully support single operators that do not want to
> > utilize QSO alerting systems.  You can operate in the Single Operator
> > Category as you have done historically, if you desire.  Single Operators
> > are
> > NOT required to use QSO alerting systems.  The only requirement regarding
> > QSO alerting systems is that they are precluded in the Single Operator
> > Classic Overlay category.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Classic Overlay Category was reduced from 36 hours to 24 hours, after
> > the inaugural run in 2020, to make it consistent with the Classic
> Category
> > duration in CQ WW.  I believe this is sound as many participants are
> > physically unable or unwilling to operate for longer periods.  Operators
> > using a single radio that want to operate without QSO alerting systems
> for
> > more than 24 hours can do so; their entire period of operation is
> > applicable
> > to the scoring in the Single Operator category, and their first 24 hours
> of
> > operation is valid for the Single Operator Classic Overlay.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >
> >
> > Bud AA3B
> >
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:08:59 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jimk8mr@aol.com
> To: "ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>,
>         "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
> Message-ID: <1230449334.3759313.1605643739587@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> The cloth covers for the Heil ProSet will cover the deteriorating vinyl on
> the CM500. You may need a small safety pin to tuck in the extra cloth to
> fit the CM500.
>
>
> 73? -? Jim? K8MR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2020 1:50 pm
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
>
> It's too late now..I've just pulled the Amazon trigger on some replacement
> earpads which I *hope* will fit, but what have you all done to remedy what
> is apparently a cheap vinyl faux-leather & foam that flakes apart after
> just
> a few short years (6) of ownership?
>
>
>
> I don't really want to buy another pair of new CM500's (Now
> $87+tax+shipping) next time the earpads go bad.
>
>
>
> Are you using material covers?? Buying velour? Cheap Koss UR40 replacement
> pads? or something else?
>
>
>
> I love these things..lightweight..good transmit audio...good earphone sound
> and perhaps best of all, don't seem to "squoosh my head" during a long
> contest.
>
>
>
> Mike VE9AA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:09:08 -0500
> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX Single Op Rules
> Message-ID: <32fd2f87-7c69-0d81-b997-62b8398c35ed@ku8e.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> "The Classic Overlay Category was reduced from 36 hours to 24 hours, after
> the inaugural run in 2020, to make it consistent with the Classic Category
> duration in CQ WW.  I believe this is sound as many participants are
> physically unable or unwilling to operate for longer periods."
>
>
> So it's being implied that the Classic Overlay Category is a category for
> "those participants are physically unable or unwilling to operate for
> longer periods." So basically a category for someone who wants to just play
> around in the contest? For someone who desires to operate full time
> unassisted Single-Op there isn't an option for doing a full blown 36 hour
> effort and turn in a competitive score. Your only choice to to compete with
> those who use spotting networks.
>
> So to be fair why don't you make a category for those who want to operate
> as assisted and are physically unable or unwilling to operate for longer
> periods ? It's being implied that ONLY anyone who operates SOU isn't
> capable of doing 36 hours? Are only unassisted operators not capable or
> physically unable or unwilling to operate for longer periods?
>
> And why does CQ WPX have to be consistent with categories in CQWW ?  Again
> none of this is logical.
>
> Jeff
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:10:26 -0300
> From: PY2NY <py2ny.vitor@gmail.com>
> To: Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
> Cc: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rules for all contests
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> Yes, you need. Only in Contest weekends you
> have tons & tons of HamRadio guys on the air.
> 73 amigo!!
> .
> ..
> ...
> --------------------------------
> PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
> http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
>
>
>
> Em ter., 17 de nov. de 2020 ?s 16:59, Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net> escreveu:
>
> > On 11/17/2020 10:48 AM, James Cain wrote:
> > > I. Set up a station where you live
> > > II. Get in the contest
> > > III. Make QSOs
> > > IV. Use your shortwave radio, not the internet
> > > V. Don't think about certificates, plaques, records.
> > >
> > > cain K1TN
> > > ontest
> >
> > For all of the above - you wouldn't need a Contest.
> >
> > 73, Yuri  VE3DZ
> >
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>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:38:45 -0600
> From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
> Message-ID: <3dccfcaf-1a19-c494-c305-93bc0ec5bd01@mwt.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> I wish I could find the pads I had for my stereo headphones I had in the
> 70's, I'm pretty sure they were Koss phones, but the pads were a gell
> filled oval. it was like a waterbed on your skull. you could wear them
> forever and never know it and talk about blocking outside sounds out! wow!
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com>
> On 11/17/2020 12:50 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> > It's too late now..I've just pulled the Amazon trigger on some
> replacement
> > earpads which I *hope* will fit, but what have you all done to remedy
> what
> > is apparently a cheap vinyl faux-leather & foam that flakes apart after
> just
> > a few short years (6) of ownership?
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't really want to buy another pair of new CM500's (Now
> > $87+tax+shipping) next time the earpads go bad.
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you using material covers?  Buying velour? Cheap Koss UR40
> replacement
> > pads? or something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > I love these things..lightweight..good transmit audio...good earphone
> sound
> > and perhaps best of all, don't seem to "squoosh my head" during a long
> > contest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:21:36 -0300
> From: "Martin, LU5DX" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
> To: Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
> Cc: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rules for all contests
> Message-ID:
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>
> You are very wrong.
> The word contest was used by whoever created CQ Contests, but they could
> have been named "QSO Parties" or "Get on the air events".
> Contests are only made possible by those who just do what Cain's listed.
> The rest (Competition) is just an illusion probably only 10% of the
> entrants buy.
> A big portion of the efforts of log checking (Countless hours) are spent to
> detect cheating by so called "Competitors".
> The vast majority (Fortunately), simply turn on the radios and have fun AND
> are generous enough to send in their logs.
>
> 73,
>
> Mart?n LU5DX
>
>
>
> El mar., 17 nov. 2020 4:59 p. m., Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net> escribi?:
>
> > On 11/17/2020 10:48 AM, James Cain wrote:
> > > I. Set up a station where you live
> > > II. Get in the contest
> > > III. Make QSOs
> > > IV. Use your shortwave radio, not the internet
> > > V. Don't think about certificates, plaques, records.
> > >
> > > cain K1TN
> > > ontest
> >
> > For all of the above - you wouldn't need a Contest.
> >
> > 73, Yuri  VE3DZ
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:56:02 +0000
> From: Dave Lawley <dave@g4buo.com>
> To: CQ Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Changes for the CQ WW WPX SSB and CW
>         Contests
> Message-ID: <884cfd61-807c-821a-887d-d9207fd39162@g4buo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I am another who is really disappointed to see this change, which has
> come out of the blue without any consultation. The blog entry starts out
> talking of the Multi Distributed category and only in the second
> paragraph are we told how the Single Operator category has been wrecked.
>
> Under these new rules the single operator who wants to be competitive
> must either embrace cluster/Skimmer, or be limited to 24 hours in the
> Classic overlay. Neither is attractive to me.
>
> I fervently hope this change to WPX doesn't encourage the organisers of
> CQWW to go down the same regressive route.
>
> Dave G4BUO
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:44:38 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Distributed Multi in WPX Is a Terrible Idea!
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> This is another train wreck for single-ops AND for little-guns, because
> not only does it reduce the number of stations to work, it also takes
> the prefixes of those operators off the playing field, reducing the
> number of available mults!  The thing that makes WPX a fun contest for
> those outside the Atlantic Basin is that prefixes are far more evenly
> available to stations around the world than are country mults.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:30:19 -0700
> From: Larry Pace <pacer99@aol.com>
> To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
> Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
> Message-ID: <3DC7A399-9AF2-4576-BD3D-0F9FAC610A74@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I use the same earphones. Love them.
> $90 for 6 years of use. That's $15 per year of use. Treat yourself to a
> new set. I did.
> Larry
> N7DD
>
> Sent by Larry
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Joe <nss@mwt.net> wrote:
>
> ?I wish I could find the pads I had for my stereo headphones I had in the
> 70's, I'm pretty sure they were Koss phones, but the pads were a gell
> filled oval. it was like a waterbed on your skull. you could wear them
> forever and never know it and talk about blocking outside sounds out! wow!
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com>
> On 11/17/2020 12:50 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> > It's too late now..I've just pulled the Amazon trigger on some
> replacement
> > earpads which I *hope* will fit, but what have you all done to remedy
> what
> > is apparently a cheap vinyl faux-leather & foam that flakes apart after
> just
> > a few short years (6) of ownership?
> >
> >
> > I don't really want to buy another pair of new CM500's (Now
> > $87+tax+shipping) next time the earpads go bad.
> >
> >
> > Are you using material covers?  Buying velour? Cheap Koss UR40
> replacement
> > pads? or something else?
> >
> >
> > I love these things..lightweight..good transmit audio...good earphone
> sound
> > and perhaps best of all, don't seem to "squoosh my head" during a long
> > contest.
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:38:43 -0600
> From: beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Rule changes
> Message-ID: <f8dc522c-cd10-50da-c229-2d3be4ff1863@charter.net>
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>
> GA All
>
>  ??? ??? I also misinterpreted the rules for Classic entrants in regards
> to low and high
>
>  ??? ??? power categories.? Awards for Low Power will be recognized under
>
>  ??? ??? Classic Overlay section.? I do apologize Bud and wish I had
> waited till more
>
>  ??? ??? people discussed/explained rules.? No excuses I was wrong.
>
>  ??? ??? ??? ??? BoB WA1FCN
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:19:55 -0600
> From: Mike Ricketts <mike.nd9g@gmail.com>
> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> Cc: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
> Message-ID:
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> CAEsm0bwVxym4BUpCtrmWzObcPpyLXVx5err6gjECnmfjsOo2og@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> This came up on the CWOps reflector a few months back.
>
> Apparently PilotMall has some that fit the CM500.
>
>
> https://www.pilotmall.com/products/replacement-protein-leather-ear-seals?variant=10889368174635
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Headset-Replacement-Protein-Leather-Seals/dp/B0764M994X/
>
>
> 73,
> Mike ND9G
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > It's too late now..I've just pulled the Amazon trigger on some
> replacement
> > earpads which I *hope* will fit, but what have you all done to remedy
> what
> > is apparently a cheap vinyl faux-leather & foam that flakes apart after
> > just
> > a few short years (6) of ownership?
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't really want to buy another pair of new CM500's (Now
> > $87+tax+shipping) next time the earpads go bad.
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you using material covers?  Buying velour? Cheap Koss UR40
> replacement
> > pads? or something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > I love these things..lightweight..good transmit audio...good earphone
> sound
> > and perhaps best of all, don't seem to "squoosh my head" during a long
> > contest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:30:57 +0000
> From: "Michael Adams (N1EN)" <mda@n1en.org>
> To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
> Message-ID:
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> BN6PR19MB3154EAB0FD4B1AF90D36742192E10@BN6PR19MB3154.namprd19.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> For whatever it's worth, the CM500 is currently only US$60 on Amazon's US
> site.
>
> --
> Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+mda=n1en.org@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of Larry Pace via CQ-Contest
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November, 2020 18:30
> To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
> Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Yamaha CM500 headphones flaking apart
>
> I use the same earphones. Love them.
> $90 for 6 years of use. That's $15 per year of use. Treat yourself to a
> new set. I did.
> Larry
> N7DD
>
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