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Re: [CQ-Contest] The legacy of not working dupes

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The legacy of not working dupes
From: "Richard F. DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:22:56 -0500
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As a general rule, I always work dupes.  I have one and only one exception: if I have a significant pile (i.e., 3 callers+)  in Sweepstakes, I will call out dupe if I am pretty certain I've worked someone before.  The chances of losing one of the other two remaining stations is too great to risk - given that this is a work a station once per contest event and casual ops are very fickle in Sweeps.

73 Rich NN3W

On 1/7/2020 12:14 AM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
The "no dupes" came from the fact that it was very difficult to weed the dupes out of the logs back 
before computerized logging.  So "loading up on dupes" was a way of "padding the log" and 
was penalized early on in the score keeping.  Today the reverse is true.

The days of sending with one hand and paper logging and dupe sheeting with the 
other are long gone too.

Ed  N1UR

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Of Jeff Blaine
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 9:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The legacy of not working dupes

It was pretty funny Mike.  But unfortunately in a "watch me shoot my
foot" sort of way.  I got into contesting way too late and missed
whatever it was that drove the no-dupes obsession back in the day.  Must
have had something to do with paper logging or labor or something like
that.  I'm sure there was a good reason the practice got started.
Clearly that original momentum has plenty of legs even now when it seems
the no-dupe thing is actually bad for biz.

73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com


On 1/6/20 6:17 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
Jeff,

Like you, I always work dupes.  I work very little RTTY, but in the bigger
CW contests, there always seem to be a very small # of EU's that will work
me 2, 3 or even 7 times.  I can only surmise they trawl up and down the
bottom end of 20m working the stronger NA stations to 'help them out' in the
contest and are probably are not using a logging program.  I had to tell one
guy one time after the 5th or 6th QSO in an hour or so "No more!"

I loved the "don't think so" you got. I found that very funny (and very sad
at the same time) (if that makes sense.)

That'd be a new one on me.  Mike VE9AA

"..I was S&P and called a guy that had apparently worked me - but was not in
my log.  I got the "BEFORE" reply which I get a few times each contest and
for that case, I have a short macro that says "NIL - plz work again".  And
to my complete amazement the guy sent a reply - apparently typed by hand as
the pace was a bit slower than normal macro exchange speed - "dont think
so."   Wow, never had someone tell me that.   So the net result of this is
he lost a point because he's not in my log and that will pop in the cross
check. And we must have wasted a minute or two doing the dance.  Good move
all around, OM! .."

alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

www.ac0c.com

Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB

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