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Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary

To: w1ve@yccc.org
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary
From: Dave Edmonds <dave@pkministrywebs.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 20:32:10 -0500
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i felt like I was flying in SS at 32 wpm, because tons of ops were running
at 25 or so. One funny moment was when I worked NP2X who was flying on 15m
on Saturday. On Sunday eve on 40m he was running at 22 or so.

Got to fly!  Dave WN4AFP

i may try to send at 20 wpm at 03z tonight.

De

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:15 PM Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org> wrote:

> So, I will buck the consensus.
>
> I've been doing SS about 42 years or so.   When I started I was a
> snot-nosed teenager.   In my first SS, I had to listen to a station 5 to 10
> times before I got all his information, and then I prayed I could copy his
> QSO number.
> (Not to mention KP4AST on SS SSB, who was such as fast talker it took the
> same amount of times listening to even get his call!)
>
> This is the story for many of those top-ten players in SS now back then.
>  Learn by pushing yourself.    I believe slowing down the contest will not
> encourage more CW activity.   The high end of the band has
> always been a safe place for slower-speed guys in SS.
>
> I would hazard to guess I send at one of the fastest CW speeds in SS.
>  When the Pileups were enormous, I would send at 38-40 wpm.     When things
> got slow, I would slow down to 34 or so,
> Did I work many slow stations?   Perhaps 100s.   When stations called me
> with a slow speed, I replied with a slow speed.  One op called me at 18
> wpm.   I answered him at 18 WPM, and we made it.
> (A new VE4 CW op who was under the tutelage of Cary, VE4EA, operating as
> AJ1I).     It was NEVER a problem to QRS, when needed.   In some 960 QSOs,
> I think I had one operator actually ask me to QRS, which I did
> immediately.
>
> With today's spotting technology and most new ops choosing to avail
> themselves of spots, I'm sure they came to my frequency not being able to
> copy at my sending speed.
> Yet, we had a QSO.   It's simple to QRS as necessary.
>
> However, IMHO, to keep peak rates I like to go fast.    It seems to work
> for me in all contests.
> I think it encourages new ops to strive for more.
>
> I see this same interaction in CWOps CWT's and in the big four.
>
> 73
>
> Gerry, W1VE
> VY1AAA in SS CW 2019
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:37 PM Stephen Bloom <sbloom@acsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Agreed on all of this.  One thing is, the newer cw operators (and there
> > are more than you realize, check out .040-.060 above band edge) are
> > generated by CWops and SKCC.  If we want more CW contesters going
> forward,
> > we need to be looking in that direction.  I support the ARRL in many
> ways,
> > but in terms of developing and providing opportunities for new ops,
> beyond
> > selling them books, they just aren't a factor.  In the specific case of
> SS,
> > I've long thought we should designate, say .050 and above as "Slow
> Speed."
> > There are ops out there who enjoy cw, but are scared to death of looking
> > foolish in a contest.
> >
> > 73
> > Steve KL7SB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joe
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 5:56 AM
> > To: John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com>; AB2E Darrell <ab2e@hotmail.com>
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary
> >
> > The Rookie Roundup is dismal! It is NOTHING like the Novice Roundup of
> > like the 70's Participation levels are soo low, that a pretty good
> portion
> > of the sections, you can make just one contact and take first place
> because
> > no one enters in from there.
> >
> > When the ARRL thought about bringing this contest back, I wish they kept
> > the same old format of like 9 or 10 days operating window, but still only
> > use 124 to 30 hours of operating time.
> >
> > Just modernize it with the new modes that a newly licensed person can
> > use.  IE: 3 Modes CW, SSB, Digital.
> > And like Field Day you can work them on each band and each mode.
> >
> > Same with Mults each band and mode to encourage people to try different
> > bands and modes.
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
> > That would have been a BLAST
> > Sig
> > The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> > Idle Tyme
> > Idle-Tyme.com
> > http://www.idle-tyme.com
> > On 11/4/2019 10:20 PM, John Geiger wrote:
> > > How many rookie operators are showing up in the CW version of the
> > > Rookie Roundup?  That might give us a good indication of what the
> > > expect in the CW SS in years to come.
> > >
> > > 73 John W5TD
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:41 PM AB2E Darrell <ab2e@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Pete,
> > >> Good point about the new ops showing up.
> > >> It's been 3 or 4 years since I operated SS CW more than just a couple
> > >> hours.
> > >> I noticed quite a few CKs from 00-18. Also quite a number of ops
> > >> coming back to my CQ at between 17-21 WPM.
> > >> While I like to typically operate at 30+wpm in contests, I try to
> > >> slow down for the slower ops that came back.
> > >> I think it will help them hang in there. Sometimes I just slowed down
> > >> some, like to 24 or 25 so as to still challenge them and hopefully
> > >> help improve their speed.
> > >>
> > >> There seems to be some attrition in the diehard 24hour high-speed
> > >> operators, but perhaps that;s my imagination.
> > >> I'm thinking back to the 90s and 80s when on Sunday afternoon a lot
> > >> of operators had 1000+ QSO counts, only worked a few of those on Sun
> > >> this year, and one of those was Multi.
> > >>
> > >> 73 Darrell AB2E
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of
> > >> N4ZR < n4zr@comcast.net>
> > >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 5:44 PM
> > >> To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary
> > >>
> > >> The one I got from the N1MM site had over 10,000.  I was surprised by
> > >> how many people weren't in it.  My theory, at least, is that there's
> > >> a little new blood every year, and a good thing.  Too many checks in
> > the 50s.
> > >>
> > >> 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> > >> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> > >> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> > >> For spots, please use your favorite
> > >> "retail" DX cluster.
> > >>
> > >> On 11/4/2019 1:09 PM, Radio KØHB wrote:
> > >>> I loaded a “call history” file into N1MM+ for this weekends SS CW.
> > >>>
> > >>> Out of over 500 contacts, just seven were NOT in that file.  Five of
> > >> them had checks from the last century.
> > >>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> > >>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
> > >>>
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