Hello all,
Sure messed that up.
I said 'I am not returning because of fear.' What I meant was 'I'm not
staying away from Dayton because of fear'.
Steve
On 9/17/2019 5:13 PM, Steve Bookout wrote:
Hello all,
This whole 'Dayton thing' has been on my mind for several months.
I've come to the decision that this past Dayton was my last.
As some of you may know, my Corvette was broken into while sitting on
Crown Plaza property in the valet parking area. Nothing was taken, but
sure messed up my 'Dayton experience'. Spent the whole day Friday
dealing with getting the window replaced.
But, that's not all.
After we first arrived on Wednesday, five of us went to a South
American restaurant just past Thai 9 and had a really fine dinner. On
the way back, we were approached by an apparently drug addled person,
ranting about his 'girlfriend' and threatening the whole group of us.
We just kept on walking past him like the river goes around a rock,
and that was the end of it, but of that group, more than one exercises
their 2nd Amendment right. There is no doubt in my mind that if he
had been holding some sort of weapon, when he stepped out of the
shadows, there would have been a very different outcome.
When my Corvette got broken into, the SUV next to me got 'keyed'.
One of my friends, on two occasions, was approached by panhandlers
begging for money. He was out by the curb in front of the CP, smoking
a cigarette both times.
Another evening, a group of well know software guys, were walking back
down by that spaghetti place close to the CP and were propositioned by
hookers. Nice area.
Another fellow was followed into a parking garage by someone he passed
on the street. He is a large man. He left the mugger on the floor of
the parking garage.
'CJ' (call escapes me) got his lip busted when he didn't have a
cigarette for one of the street urchins.
CP does not have any security cameras on the plaza where the valet
parking is.
The Dayton Police minimizes and under reports the criminal activity.
Right after my incident, I wrote emails to those who I thought should
know what happened. The police PR person politely tried to blow smoke
up my butt about the whole thing.
I am not returning because of fear. I don't need the hassle and I
won't knowingly put myself in a situation where I may need to defend
myself.
73 de Steve, NR4M
On 9/17/2019 12:45 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
I would like to offer my perspective as someone who has attended the
Hamvention since the late 1970's. I've stayed at the Crowne Plaza
many times over the years and just drove there from my home QTH for
the contesting events back when I lived in Ohio. I have to say that
I've never thought about safety (or had any issues) when walking back
and forth to the connecting parking garage or going to nearby
restaurants with my contesting friends. During Dayton weekend there
is an international food festival in the adjoining convention center
so there are plenty of people around to feel safe.
For those not familiar with the area where the Crown Plaza is
located, the shooting took place on East 5th Avenue which is just
east of the hotel. If you walk out of the front door of the hotel,
which is located at the corner of East 5th and Jefferson, turn left
and walk down East 5th Ave. the Oregon District where the shooting
took place is about a block away. This is an area of downtown Dayton
that has been reinvented with upscale restaurants and bars much like
other major cities are doing.
I was curious about how safe this area is so I Googled it. See below
an interesting article I found in the Dayton Daily News. This should
alleviate any fears you might have about this area of downtown Dayton.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/local/late-night-the-oregon-district-will-people-feel-safe/mfcNaYYaoBbY7nN2P6K0NP/#
Dayton is no different (i.e. petty crimes) than any other downtown
area in any other major city. You just need to use common sense and
be aware of the surroundings. It probably would be a good idea to
walk in groups, especially late at night, and the odds are you will
probably have no issues.
Jeff KU8E
On 9/17/2019 10:45 AM, PY2NY wrote:
I am so sad reading everything about Dayton, because
Ana PU2VYT and me, we did our last visit in 2000 and
was superb.
I really hope that Dayton can go forward and have
better days in your local economy ASAP.
Really sad news here in the reflector...
73 DX
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Em ter, 17 de set de 2019 às 11:23, Allan W Schlaugat
<reflectors@n9isn.com>
escreveu:
I personally know of two assaults on contesters, one requiring medical
attention, within the immediate area around the CP last year. My
last trip
to Dayton in 2018 I was with the K9PG group dining at a great BBQ
place
south of the CP and it was just starting to get 'sketchy' then. (we
never
did find a good place that sold milk shakes afterwards) Stay in
groups and
be aware of your surroundings.
Al N9ISN
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:01:35 +0000, Radio KØHB <kzerohb@gmail.com>
wrote:
I’m only familiar with the area immediately adjacent to the
CrownPlaza,
so I can’t speak about the “Oregon area”.
In my (mis-spent) youth in the Navy I navigated a lot of dark and
sketchy
waterfronts in down-scale foreign ports.
In none of them was I ever so apprehensive for my safety as I was
this
last May after the Contest Dinner walking
2 blocks from CP to where my vehicle was parked in a surface lot.
Approached twice with offers of intimate
horizontal refreshment and once by a pair of fellows desiring
“money for
the bus”.
73, de Hans, KØHB
"Just a boy and his radio"™
--
Allan W. Schlaugat Albertville, WI USA
Amateur Radio: N9ISN Home Page: www.n9isn.com
American Philatelic Society #186089
I believe in sharing the road with other drivers. They can
have the part behind me.
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