Eric, this is a very valid point.
Some people like it, others not. I belong to the first category - not
because I am “Russian” but simply because this adds a new dimension to
overall skills in a contest.
The “ENN AE” in 50 WPM simply doesn’t work successfully in RDXC. In this
contest, both calls and both test messages must be correct, to get points -
and to avoid penalties.
The knowledge and imagination of other operators skills, determines whether
I continue in standard 32-34 WPM (for RDXC), or if I slow down. This
especially when the station is a new Mult. Penalty becomes even worse if
failed message or call (at both ends) occurs.
73 de RM2D, Mats
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 19:37, NM5M <nm5meric@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don’t forget, in the Russian contest, the contest sponsor penalizes
> stations if the receiving party doesn’t get the information correctly into
> their log. To simplify, both stations have to copy correct information in
> order to get full points for the contact.
>
> We could learn something from the way the Russians score their contest.
>
> 73,
>
> NM5M
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:56 AM, cq-contest-request@contesting.com wrote:
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> > 1. Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday Nights
> > (dfaklis@frontiernet.net)
> > 2. Serial # contests, speed? (Mike Smith VE9AA)
> > 3. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (K9MA)
> > 4. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Edward Sawyer)
> > 5. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (rjairam@gmail.com)
> > 6. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (jimk8mr@aol.com)
> > 7. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
> > 8. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Ed K1EP)
> > 9. Serial # contests, speed? (Bill Parry)
> > 10. Serial # contests, speed? (jpescatore@aol.com)
> > 11. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Dave Edmonds)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: "dfaklis@frontiernet.net" <dfaklis@frontiernet.net>
> > To: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>, MRRC
> > Reflector <mrrc@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday
> > Nights
> > Message-ID: <409963253.2905044.1552342565021@mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Phone Fray - Tuesday Evening, 10:30pm EDT (0230-0300z Wednesday),
> 30-minute SSB contest.? Please bring a friend and introduce a new contester
> into the mix.? One QSO or many, please enter your score.
> >
> > The Phone Fray is weekly and mirrors NAQP SSB; exchange name and S/P/C,
> mults per band.
> >
> > Suggested center frequencies are:? 21.325, 14.250, 7.175, 3.800, 1.875.?
> General Ops can be found above 3.800.
> >
> > 20 may be open at the start, then folks move down to 40, 80, and Q's are
> had on 160 in the last 5-10 minutes.
> >
> > Rules are here:? http://www.perluma.com/Phone_Fray_Contest_Rules.pdf
> >
> > Join the free Yahoo Groups Reflector for communications:
> > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PhoneFray/info
> >
> > No logs, just report scores to http://www.3830scores.com
> >
> > Please forward this email to your clubs and amateurs that might be
> interested.?? Great for new contesters and veterans alike.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 73, Dean, NW2K
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:44:17 -0300
> > From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <002e01d4d86c$b9f0a350$2dd1e9f0$@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >
> >
> >
> > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> > the #,but keeping rate high.
> >
> > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > reduces busted exchanges.
> >
> > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >
> > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >
> > . Something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > Inquiring minds.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:02:55 -0600
> > From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
> > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <C7FA205D-26C9-4065-818E-C4B7227D2961@sdellington.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> counterproductive.
> >
> > 73,
> > Scott K9MA
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > Scott Ellington
> >
> > --- via iPad
> >
> >> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>
> >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>
> >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> is), but
> >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>
> >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>
> >> . Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>
> >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:01:42 -0400
> > From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
> > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> 0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E047CF8ED1E61@SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > For WPX and Russia DX or ARRL or CQWW, for me it doesn't matter, serial
> # or not. If conditions are good and you are working Europe, especially,
> Russia and Eastern Europe, its fast 36 - 40. If its all US or South
> America I slow it down to 32 - 34. When conditions are more marginal
> especially with QSB, I use 28 - 30. Especially over the pole - 26 - 28.
> >
> > Ed N1UR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Smith VE9AA
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:44 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >
> > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >
> >
> >
> > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> > the #,but keeping rate high.
> >
> > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > reduces busted exchanges.
> >
> > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >
> > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >
> > . Something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > Inquiring minds.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:05:47 -0400
> > From: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
> > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMCyBs6k43PRTDN14_t8r7c9vjAGdWqE1R8iadZ1R1Z7Wk+VOg@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Automatically have software go slower to send the exchange.
> >
> > 73
> > Ria, N2RJ
> >
> >> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>
> >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>
> >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> is), but
> >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>
> >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>
> >> . Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>
> >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ria Jairam, N2RJ
> > Director, Hudson Division
> > ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
> > +1.973.594.6275
> > https://hudson.arrl.org
> > n2rj@arrl.org
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: jimk8mr@aol.com
> > To: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca, cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <2066153686.3273616.1552356935422@mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> > I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
> knows how to increment a number.
> >
> > Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> the other guy to call you now.
> >
> > And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
> bit.
> >
> >
> > 73? -? Jim? K8MR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >
> > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >
> >
> >
> > .? ? ? Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> > the #,but keeping rate high.
> >
> > .? ? ? Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > reduces busted exchanges.
> >
> > .? ? ? Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >
> > .? ? ? Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >
> > .? ? ? Something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > Inquiring minds.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 00:18:04 -0400
> > From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
> > To: <jimk8mr@aol.com>, <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>,
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <A2E111074D3949F6BBB370BE544F0B44@BOBWINPC1PC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > What is fun is when a super op type calls you and you KNOW that you can
> speed up and send it to him at 60 wpm and he will get it the first time and
> vice-versa if I I call him/her. Get?s the blood pumping a little faster
> and puts a smile on my face (and hopefully theirs). :-) And there are
> some slow sending ops that can copy qrq easily ? but just can?t send fast ?
> and your turning up the speed to send to them is like a knowing handshake
> saluting their copying skill ? ?Hey I know who you are ? you?re a really
> good op so I am going to send fast to you!?.
> >
> > It also gets the attention of the pileup ? makes them listen and wonder
> what is going on. If they are listening then they are not transmitting
> which means that when the weak guy calls you will copy him and work him.
> Sometimes that weak guy is a polar path mult that you would never have
> heard if/when everyone was calling at once!
> >
> > It pays to slow down if cndx are disturbed and the signals start to
> sound auroral and/or of have significant flutter (like the W1 path to JA) ?
> if you are sending fast you will be harder to understand and callers may
> pass you by.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bob KQ2M
> >
> >
> > From: K8MR via CQ-Contest
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:15 PM
> > To: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca ; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >
> > I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >
> > I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO and
> knows how to increment a number.
> >
> > Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> the other guy to call you now.
> >
> > And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted with
> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed a
> bit.
> >
> >
> > 73 - Jim K8MR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >
> > For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >
> >
> >
> > . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> > the #,but keeping rate high.
> >
> > . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> > reduces busted exchanges.
> >
> > . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> > use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >
> > . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >
> > . Something else?
> >
> >
> >
> > Inquiring minds.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> > knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:25:58 -0400
> > From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com>
> > To: jimk8mr@aol.com
> > Cc: ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca, cq Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAKR4uUNq7qoQ2XRqRA=UmLPm9WOxg21na9sKUL8m8a8nQQOXDQ@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > What I don't get are those who send at warp speed, but pause a second or
> > two before sending the exchange. Same amount of time if you just
> eliminated
> > the pause and sent at non-warp speed.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 23:41 K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> I
> >> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> and
> >> knows how to increment a number.
> >>
> >> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >> the other guy to call you now.
> >>
> >> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> with
> >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> speed a
> >> bit.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> >> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>
> >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>
> >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>
> >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>
> >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>
> >> . Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:39 -0500
> > From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
> > Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <000001d4d8ba$7445b8b0$5cd12a10$@rgv.rr.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I have noticed that I need to send a little slower in JA pileups than in
> EU ones. Not sure why but if I try to speed up past 30 in a JA pileup the
> pileup starts to dwindle. If the pileup is unruly I DO speed up.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:03 PM
> > To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >
> > I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
> counterproductive.
> >
> > 73,
> > Scott K9MA
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > Scott Ellington
> >
> > --- via iPad
> >
> >> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>
> >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>
> >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
> is), but
> >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>
> >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>
> >> . Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> >> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >>
> >> Keswick Ridge, NB
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: jpescatore@aol.com
> > To: CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID: <939833448.4053654.1552389468740@mail.yahoo.com>
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> >
> > I'll generally stay at high speed unless the caller is obviously slower.
> Then I will send their callsign back full speed and hit the PageDown key a
> few times before the variable part of the exchange, then back up.?
> > For information free exchanges, like CQ WW, I don't slow down. For NAQP,
> SS, FD and others that get lots of new or part timers, I don't speed up. On
> VHF tests, I send as if I was using a straight key...
> > 73 John K3TN
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:35:47 -0400
> > From: Dave Edmonds <dave@pkministrywebs.com>
> > To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr@aol.com>
> > Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAHQrxhKcjm4OYZ4Oo=gLxbZqoj-WkT1+iX8GE6tpQAR7gtnGYw@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Amen K8MR!!!!!
> >
> > The comment about a sense of urgency is 100% DEAD ON! i never considered
> > this before, but Jim is right. It's also upbeat and energetic...Those are
> > always positive!
> >
> > Please do not change your CW speed during your exchange!... If you do,
> I'll
> > probably ask for a repeat. When I hear a 599 or 5NN (or the first element
> > of the exchange) at 40 wpm, my brain is primed to copy the rest of the
> > exchange at 40 wpm. Please oh please keep it constant. There's nothing
> for
> > difficult than copying variable speed transmissions...Who started this
> > weird technique anyway?
> >
> > Have you ever heard W1AW speed copy tests? They don't change the speed
> with
> > every other word. Perhaps they should create one and call it the
> contesters
> > variable speed copy test. When I took my 20 wpm test at the FCC offices
> in
> > Atlanta, New Orleans and Greenville hamfest in the lat 70's, they didn't
> > switch it up either.
> >
> > Frankly, even SS is pretty easy at the 36-40 range.
> >
> > This is a bit off the subject, but still relevant...Four more CW truths
> > that drive me to the 'funny farm'.
> >
> > 1. If you run in a contest, please don't set your CQ speed faster than
> you
> > can actually copy CW.
> >
> > 2. Don't use phonetics on CW. I asked someone for a repeat recently and
> > they spelled out the letter that I was mission... Holy moly... Just send
> > the letter a few times.
> >
> > 3. I'll add one more... I hear the good old "Please copy" on CW too.
> WHAT!
> >
> > 4. Please leave enough space between CQs for a guy with a 6-character
> > callsign to reply at a reasonable speed. This weekend, I had to reply at
> 44
> > wpm to fit my callsign in the GAP. I'm now calling this the 'CQ GAP'.
> >
> > Playing a little Prince "Let's Go Crazy", "Tom Sawyer" by Rush or some
> fast
> > Phil Collins vinyl during your breaks will also help keep your speed up
> > when you return.
> >
> > 73s Dave WN4AFP
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM K8MR via CQ-Contest <
> > cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
> >> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
> >> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
> >> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
> I
> >> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
> >> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
> and
> >> knows how to increment a number.
> >>
> >> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
> >> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
> >> the other guy to call you now.
> >>
> >> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
> >> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
> with
> >> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
> speed a
> >> bit.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73 - Jim K8MR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
> >> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
> >>
> >> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
> busting
> >> the #,but keeping rate high.
> >>
> >> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
> >> reduces busted exchanges.
> >>
> >> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
> but
> >> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
> >>
> >> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
> >>
> >> . Something else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Inquiring minds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
> who
> >> knows if what I do is even 'right')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike VE9AA
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Edmonds
> > PK Ministry Webs
> > 864.288.6678
> > dave@pkministrywebs.com
> > www.pkministrywebs.com
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