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From: Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:59:42 +0000 (UTC)
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At 1800Z it is s-7 in KH6.
KH7XS


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Today's Topics:

  1. 20 Meter Intruder? (K9MA)
  2. Re: 20 Meter Intruder? (Jamie WW3S)
  3. Re: 20 Meter Intruder? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
  4. 20M Intruder (jpescatore@aol.com)
  5. Announcing: YARC Youth Contesting Program (Sterling Mann)
  6. Re: 20 Meter Intruder? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
  7. Re: 20M Intruder (Zack Widup)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:40:44 -0600
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?
Message-ID: <d1fda944-73ad-83bd-cca9-fb445427085a@sdellington.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Folks in the midwest US have noticed this very strong signal from 14.000 
to 14.0035. Some kind of data, some thing related to stock trading. The 
bearing is 90 degrees from EN53gb. It would be interesting to get some 
bearings on it from further east. It's definitely not local, as QSB is 
present. Judging from signal strength and time of day 20Z), I'd guess 
east coast of the US.

The bigger question is what is this doing in the 20 meter band? If it 
was authorized by the FCC, have we lost our exclusive right to that band?

It's fading out here at 2040Z.


73,

Scott K9MA

-- 
Scott  K9MA

k9ma@sdellington.us



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 02:30:10 +0000
From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
To: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>, "CQ Contest"
    <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?
Message-ID: <em1e298502-3d2e-4d7b-9808-5161cdecf115@hamshack>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8

yep, has something to do with getting the stock option prices sooner via 
shortwave radio then the internet....apparently fractions of a second 
mean $$$ when the prices are fluctuating....
------ Original Message ------
From: "K9MA" <k9ma@sdellington.us>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: 1/30/2019 3:40:44 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?

>Folks in the midwest US have noticed this very strong signal from 14.000 to 
>14.0035. Some kind of data, some thing related to stock trading. The bearing 
>is 90 degrees from EN53gb. It would be interesting to get some bearings on it 
>from further east. It's definitely not local, as QSB is present. Judging from 
>signal strength and time of day 20Z), I'd guess east coast of the US.
>
>The bigger question is what is this doing in the 20 meter band? If it was 
>authorized by the FCC, have we lost our exclusive right to that band?
>
>It's fading out here at 2040Z.
>
>
>73,
>
>Scott K9MA
>
>-- Scott  K9MA
>
>k9ma@sdellington.us
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:36:28 -0500
From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>,    "K9MA"
    <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?
Message-ID: <8685ABD9081D4C578386C4E24AC2B465@BOBWINPC1PC>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Scott,

What makes you think that it is related to stock trading?  Can you provide some 
examples of what the data says?

73

Bob  KQ2M


From: K9MA 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:40 PM
To: CQ Contest 
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?

Folks in the midwest US have noticed this very strong signal from 14.000 
to 14.0035. Some kind of data, some thing related to stock trading. The 
bearing is 90 degrees from EN53gb. It would be interesting to get some 
bearings on it from further east. It's definitely not local, as QSB is 
present. Judging from signal strength and time of day 20Z), I'd guess 
east coast of the US.

The bigger question is what is this doing in the 20 meter band? If it 
was authorized by the FCC, have we lost our exclusive right to that band?

It's fading out here at 2040Z.


73,

Scott K9MA

-- 
Scott  K9MA

k9ma@sdellington.us

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:43:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: <jpescatore@aol.com>
To: CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 20M Intruder
Message-ID: <1740833422.782995.1548931396587@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I can't vouch for this source, have no information if it is related to what 
K9MA heard but last year this guy's blog kicked off speculation about fast 
stock traders using HF 
links:??https://sniperinmahwah.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/shortwave-trading-part-i-the-west-chicago-tower-mystery/
73 John K3TN

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:37:23 -0600
From: Sterling Mann <kawfey@gmail.com>
To: "CQ-Contest@contesting.com" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Announcing: YARC Youth Contesting Program
Message-ID:
    <CACxCfFr+PPwGhtWD8hZA_8L3PhrD=WzTM92y8Yu7V72+SgSufQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

(this posting can also be viewed at
http://n0ssc.com/posts/830-announcing-yarc-youth-contesting-program, and I
thought to announce it to this group since it may be quite relevant to your
interests!)

On behalf of the Young Amateurs Radio Club (YARC) I?m pleased to announce
the Youth Contesting Program!

YARC?s Youth Contesting Program (YCP) is an experimental weekend program
for groups of young amateur radio contesters throughout the US and Canada
to meet up at a nearby-as-possible ?big gun stations? during the 2019 CQ
World-Wide WPX Contest taking place 30-31 March 2019. It will hopefully
enable a new dimension of the hobby to young hams who have contested a
little before, and set a new precedent for the welcoming of a new
generation of radiosport aficionados.

It works like this ? we will attempt to pair a small group (up to 4) of
young contesters interested in operating with a ?big gun? station owner
interested in hosting the youth group. The contesters will operate from the
station, and the host has the option to help the youth improve their
skills, provide advice, and even operate alongside. We will try to keep it
such that young hams will only require a relatively short drive (ideally no
more than 5 hours) to keep travel costs low. As such, this will require the
participation of as many operators and hosts as possible, but it might so
happen that a valid match may not exist. We will try our best and work to
make this a better program in the future!

YARC YCP is inspired by the efforts of YOTA?s YCP
<https://www.ham-yota.com/youth-contesting-program/>, as well as Team
Exuberance <https://www.gofundme.com/team-exuberance> and we hope to
inspire a big chunk of young hams into becoming the greatest contesters of
the 21st century.

If you?re a young ham (or know a young ham) (under age 27 or so) with at
least a little bit of contesting experience, and you?d be interested in
spending March 30-31 (CQ World-Wide WPX SSB) at a contest-grade ham radio
station, OR if you?re the owner of such a contest-grade station, sign up at
the Google form here: https://yarc.world/ycp/

Note ? because we?re trying to keep costs low by making this a drivable
event for our young ops, we can?t promise that you?ll be selected as a host
or operator, especially if either no young ops signup nearby your station
or there?s no station near young operators. Since this is our first try, we
probably have a lot to learn about this, so bear with us!

Thanks,

Sterling, N0SSC
YARC Programs & Outreach Dude


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 07:51:28 -0500
From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
To: "Neil Johnson" <n0sfh@erudicon.com>
Cc: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>,    "K9MA"
    <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?
Message-ID: <E74C11EEDFF84EA0A5EA69FDB38EB349@BOBWINPC1PC>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"

Hi Neil,

I previously read both of those articles and I read the experimental app from 
the link that you provided and I am very well aware of what institutional 
traders might be trying to do.  But none of these things answer the two 
specific questions that I asked:

?What makes you think that it is related to stock trading?  Can you provide 
some examples of what the data says??



So far NO ONE has provided any specific data of what was actually copied to 
back up K9MA?s claim.  He made a serious allegation and one that would 
potentially violate the FCC approved experimental app; so let?s please see some 
of the actual data that was received!

If it is financial data then I should be able to identify what it is and either 
confirm it or throw cold water on the allegation.

If K9MA or anyone else would prefer to send me the data privately rather than 
post it on the reflector, please email to kq2m@kq2m.com


Tnx & 73

Bob  KQ2M


From: Neil Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:10 AM
To: Neil Johnson 
Cc: Bob Shohet, KQ2M ; CQ Contest ; K9MA 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?

FCC experimental applications


https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=78952&license_seq=79672


On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:42 PM Neil Johnson <n0sfh@erudicon.com> wrote:

  While light on details, here is where the speculation comes from.

  
https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/wireless/wall-street-tries-shortwave-radio-to-make-highfrequency-trades-across-the-atlantic

  
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-18/hft-traders-dust-off-19th-century-tool-in-search-of-market-edge


  On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 8:36 PM Bob Shohet, KQ2M <kq2m@kq2m.com> wrote:

    Hi Scott,

    What makes you think that it is related to stock trading?  Can you provide 
some examples of what the data says?

    73

    Bob  KQ2M


    From: K9MA 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:40 PM
    To: CQ Contest 
    Subject: [CQ-Contest] 20 Meter Intruder?

    Folks in the midwest US have noticed this very strong signal from 14.000 
    to 14.0035. Some kind of data, some thing related to stock trading. The 
    bearing is 90 degrees from EN53gb. It would be interesting to get some 
    bearings on it from further east. It's definitely not local, as QSB is 
    present. Judging from signal strength and time of day 20Z), I'd guess 
    east coast of the US.

    The bigger question is what is this doing in the 20 meter band? If it 
    was authorized by the FCC, have we lost our exclusive right to that band?

    It's fading out here at 2040Z.


    73,

    Scott K9MA

    -- 
    Scott  K9MA

    k9ma@sdellington.us

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 07:34:49 -0600
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
To: jpescatore@aol.com, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 20M Intruder
Message-ID:
    <CANJxhWiWgFH=yF4x1Gz=aD6zW1Suxd__ZH-V1FEW7qDbnuPUMg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Interesting. Several of us in SMC were monitoring it yesterday. I am going
to make a report to Intruder Watch.

73, Zack W9SZ


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:21 AM K3TN via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:

> I can't vouch for this source, have no information if it is related to
> what K9MA heard but last year this guy's blog kicked off speculation about
> fast stock traders using HF links:
> https://sniperinmahwah.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/shortwave-trading-part-i-the-west-chicago-tower-mystery/
> 73 John K3TN
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