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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 14:22:21 -0500 (EST)
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Its the same situation if you're in Tennessee or Kentucky competing 
against Delaware. You're only hope is to guest or remote operate 
from much further east. 


Under these rules, you're only hope for being selected as a Team Leader is to: 


- own, guest op or remote operate a SOHP SO2R mega-station in a 
favorable location for DX contests, or 


- find a guest operator opportunity at a somewhat less capable SOHP 
station in the less competitive selection areas (you can figure out 
which ones they might be...). 


- perhaps compete in the still-undefined WRTC-Style MS or M2 category 


As everyone knows or should know -- contest rules are not, never 
have been, and can never be completely fair. You make whatever 
adjustments you can to improve your capabilities and your set realistic 
goals. Most importantly enjoy yourself, if you can't do that you're 
in the wrong game. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com> 
To: "Karel Matousek" <ok1cf@atlas.cz> 
Cc: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh@centrum.sk>, k5zd@charter.net, "Contest Reflector" 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "Mats Strandberg" <sm6lrr@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:34:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 

And Minnesota is in the same group with West Virginia. 

Did they just throw darts at a map? 

73, de Hans, K0HB 
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™ 








On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 09:28 Karel Matousek <ok1cf@atlas.cz> wrote: 

> Hi, 
> 
> UA6 it is a completely different world than here in central Europe. I 
> cannot believe that someone could invent such stupidity and put OK/OM and 
> UA6 into one group. I agree with Rasta OM3BH. 
> 
> 
> 
> Karel OK1CF/OK5W 
> ______________________________________________________________ 
> > Od: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh@centrum.sk> 
> > Komu: k5zd@charter.net, "'Mats Strandberg'" <sm6lrr@gmail.com>, "' 
> cq-contest@contesting.com'" <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
> > Datum: 02.01.2019 14:16 
> > Předmět: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> > 
> Hi guys, 
> 
> Does anyone have a worse idea to include UA6 region together with OK, OM 
> etc.... ??? Why not with UA9 ...? 
> It would never have occurred to me. 
> 
> 
> 73 HNY Rasťo OM3BH 
> ______________________________________________________________ 
> > Od: k5zd@charter.net 
> > Komu: "'Mats Strandberg'" <sm6lrr@gmail.com>, "' 
> cq-contest@contesting.com'" <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
> > Dátum: 02.01.2019 07:24 
> > Predmet: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> > 
> It is up to the organizers, but in the past, this only meant that all 
> single band scores were compared to the all band scores. Not that a 
> single band entry could win and get the full qualifying points unless 
> their score was higher than the top all band entry. 
> It is possible in a contest like WPX for a single band entry to have a 
> higher score than the all band entries. In this case, it makes sense 
> that the single band entry would get the full qualifying points. But, 
> in most cases, it will be the all band score that sets the standard. 
> 
> Regardless of the past, you are correct that the rules as written do 
> not specify this clearly. 
> Randy K5ZD 
> 
> -----------------------------------------From: "Mats Strandberg" 
> To: cqtestk4xs@aol.com 
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com 
> Sent: Tuesday January 1 2019 9:30:11AM 
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> 
> Bill, 
> 
> Exactly the same struck me... 
> 
> A station with a decent antenna for any single band, can quite easily 
> reach 
> Full Score in 12 contests, while the very skilled SO2R All Band 
> operator, 
> quite easily can end up not on full score in some of the contests, 
> due to 
> much higher competition, with the result that the Single Band guy can 
> grab 
> that TL ticket quite easily. 
> 
> Or Bill, do we both miss something in the “small text” of the 
> rules? 
> 
> 73 de RM2D, Mats 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 16:03, Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest < 
> cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote: 
> 
> > A couple of things popped out at me. 
> > If I read the rules correctly: 
> > Single band entries count the same as all band entries...big 
> problem. 
> > Station VP5XYZ operates with a smallt station on a band from which 
> there 
> > are usually not any single band efforts...160 or 10. He operates 
> for a 
> > couple of hours and winds up with 30 or 40 Qs. VP5ABC does AB and 
> makes 
> > 7000 Qs but finishes nr 2 for his area. VP5XYZ gets more WRTC 
> credit than 
> > the guy who busted butt for 40+ hours at VP5ABC. This could happen 
> in many 
> > of the qualifying areas. 
> > In qualifying zones which are sparsely populated, what happens if 
> no one 
> > gets 25% of the top operator's score...no one goes from that 
> district? 
> > 
> > Bill KH7XS/K4XS 
> > 
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