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Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:08:03 +0100
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AB7E offers a definition of "bigotry" which he then demonstrates applies to himself - by engaging in an ad hominem attack.

I care about what amateur radio is evolving into, and suggested, as an example, the inexorable progress of data modes into unattended, fully-automated data processing over RF.  Here's an example from March this year -  I expect the technology has moved on (become even better) since then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vwtGnmyd4

What would we call the "driver" of  a self-driving car?    A passenger.

What would we call the "operator" of an automated data QSO? Absent.

With regard to the fact that I don't use data modes, we all know "You don't have to be an actor to be a critic".  In my innocence (and bigotry, apparently) I always thought that amateur radio QSOs happened between people, not machines.  After all, it is HOW we choose to communicate with one another that defines us as radio amateurs.  It seems that AB7E doesn't agree.

73,
Paul EI5DI



On 25/10/2018 09:09, David Gilbert wrote:

What do you care what the data modes are evolving into if you don't use them (even RTTY) and they don't affect the CW and SSB contests that you do use?

I don't get it.  Amateur radio is thankfully a lot broader than your definition of it, and for the most part manages to keep the various modes segregated enough to satisfy everyone.   It makes zero sense to bitch about what other people do if they aren't negatively affecting you.  That doesn't make you old, or outdated ... it makes you a bigot.

"Bigot: A /bigot/ is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own."

Dave   AB7E



On 10/23/2018 1:50 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
As we move ever closer to fully-automated data modes, the divide between data and non-data modes gets bigger.  When and if the operator becomes incidental, what will be the point of such contest QSOs - other than bragging that my software is smarter
than yours?

WSJT-X may be the "flavour of the month" now - but, next month, or certainly next year, something "better" will turn up - as the potential for "new and improved" data modes is limitless.  Some see this as progress in amateur radio and contesting - I see
it as progress in automated two-way data processing over RF.

It seems to me that any mode that is not and can not be decoded by individual contesters (people) in real-time does not truly represent amateur radio.  But what would  I know, being just an old-fashioned (outdated?) contester who keeps to
phone and CW :-)

Some will argue that we have to keep up, we can't stop progress, and that amateur radio and contesting are evolving.  I say that data modes are evolving into something
else entirely.

73,
Paul EI5DI


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