Bob,
First, I was unaware of the circumstances, WRT the 2006 WRTC. I am sorry to
hear about this, as I know how hard you've worked to qualify.
That said,
My original query was not about why a replacement was picked. I understand
completely that things happen, even at almost the last minute, and that the
WRTC sponsors need the flexibility to make a replacement.
I was simply curious as to why it appeared that there was little to no
consideration of replacing the first qualifier from AF with the next person
in line.
Now, I'm just curious. I am not asking for an explanation, nor do I wish to
imply that anyone owes me one. (Obviously Jorge may feel differently about
that). Nor is the WRTC committee required to explain... it would be nice if
they did, but they're not required.
To my way of thinking, though, one would hope that there is when a
substitute is picked, one of two reasons takes place...
(1) The next (or next best) qualifier for the region, if any, is asked, and
if they can go at the last minute, accepted
(2) The next best overall qualifier, regardless of region, is asked, etc.
Simply stating the reasoning behind the choice avoids any appearance of
favoritism or impropriety. One may not agree with it, but one can at least
understand it.
That was my only reason behind the query. I hope I have not stirred up an
unintended tempest in a teapot by doing so.
GL to all the WRTC teams.
73, ron w3wn
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Shohet, KQ2M
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:43 PM
To: Stephen Bloom; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
Medical situations often arise unexpectedly. I was a US Team Leader for
WRTC 2006 held in Florianopolis, Brazil and I was forced to withdraw just
one month before WRTC as a result of severe complications of surgery, which
made it impossible for me to operate much less travel.
As a group, as contesters continue to age, it is more and more likely that
we will see an increase in medically related reasons for withdrawals.
73
Bob KQ2M
From: Stephen Bloom
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:39 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
Hi all:
One thing is, I imagine it is quite rare for someone to drop out after
qualifying. People work for years and invest considerable time, money,
and various other resources in order to qualify. The most likely scenario
is a very last minute thing. Someone gets sick, or has a family emergency
Or some situation in their home country becomes dangerous. In this case,
the replacement process in the WRTC rules, (basically a ad hoc, "ok, who
can do this" process) is the only feasible option. The partner is already
there, it wouldn't be right to sideline him/her etc. (Full disclosure, I'm
already
Planning on being in Wittenberg, and I did put in for the position.) A
change a month ahead of time isn't exactly the same, but I'm not sure it is
that
much different. It would be tough to get someone who wasn't already
planning on being there.
Regarding DL1CW, I know the request states that he *must* be the partner.
Even if that wasn't included though, I can't imagine anyone not
giving him the spot, it's simply the right thing to do.
73
Steve KL7SB
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Jorge Taboada
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:27 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
Hi To all.
Well Randy is talking about 2 differents issues, one are rules, rules that
under my personal view are not good in many aspects, but now is not the
question to talk about rules...... but I would like to says something, there
is a clasification, so 1st african TL second TM, and the same for all others
continents....... obviusly, the second guy was working hard trying to be in
the wrtc and he cannot, this is not fair, for that's reason, 1º and 2º must
be the team.
But my question is, the african TL for X reason cannot go to wrtc, the team
must be dissolve inmediately, new TL must has the option to choice his own
TM... maybe he will accept the currently TM, who knows, but, anyway, new TL
must have 2 options, choice a new one or accept the currentlyTM.
Finally, under my personal opinion, team members must be classified, from
Africa,.... in other case, are not a real African team representation.
73s
Jorge Taboada Pareja, EA9LZ ED9Z EF9R CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com/>
________________________________
De: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Enviado: viernes, 8 de junio de 2018 19:21
Para: 'Jorge Taboada'
Asunto: RE: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
In other words, they who wrote the rules left themselves a loophole to
appoint their own buddies. In short, you're shafted.
And then they wonder why I have no interest in this alleged competition. I
know a stacked deck when I see one...
Sorry OM, you deserved better.
73, ron w3wn
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Randy Thompson K5ZD
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 5:02 PM
To: 'Jorge Taboada'; 'Alex Malyava'; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
The Team Leader and Team Mate (TM) selection process is described at
http://wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/competition/selection-criteria-2
Section 8 says "Each Team Leader may select a Teammate (TM) from anywhere in
the world." That is how 5H3EE could select DL1CW as a teammate.
The WRTC2018 selection policies can be found at
http://wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/competition/selection-policies-2
Section 2 describes the process that will happen if a Team Leader (TL)
withdraws. When it is this close to the date of WRTC, the option is to make
a request for Wild Card teams that would be able to attend the competition.
The wild card team has to offer the TM position to DL1CW.
It is complicated, but this is not the first time this situation has
occurred for a WRTC.
73
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of
> Jorge Taboada
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 3:56 PM
> To: Alex Malyava <alex.k2bb@gmail.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>
> Hi Again.
>
>
> I am sorry but I do not understand, African team must be integrated by
> those who classified from Africa no from Germany. Other history, if
> the wrtc allowed to the TL have a Team mate from anywhere..... in this
> case this is not a real a World Radio Team Champion.
>
> One more time, I do not understand, I am sorry.
>
>
> 73s
> Jorge Taboada Pareja, EA9LZ ED9Z EF9R CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
> 51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
> www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De: Alex Malyava <alex.k2bb@gmail.com>
> Enviado: viernes, 8 de junio de 2018 12:08
> Para: Jorge Taboada
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>
> ... because 5H3EE is German?
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Jorge Taboada
> <ea9lz@hotmail.com<mailto:ea9lz@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> yes is corious, specially for me, I am not a very intelligent guy, so
> I do not understand, why for the African Team, there is a DL station
> as Team Mate? waiting for some help to clarifying me, this rare
situtation.
>
>
> 73s
> Jorge Taboada Pareja, EA9LZ ED9Z EF9R CN2R 5E5E P.O.BOX 530
> 51001 CEUTA, SPAIN
> www.giraldatop.com<http://www.giraldatop.com><http://www.giraldatop.co
> m/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces@contesting.com>> en nombre de Ron Notarius W3WN
> <wn3vaw@verizon.net<mailto:wn3vaw@verizon.net>>
> Enviado: miércoles, 6 de junio de 2018 6:07
> Para: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>
> Curious. Was there no one else from AF qualified or qualified enough
> for WRTC?
>
> One would think that if the, or one of the, 'winners' from AF for WRTC
> could not attend, the next person in line would get the call.
>
> 73, ron W3WN
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net<mailto:k5zd@charter.net>>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-
> contest@contesting.com>>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 7:58 am
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] [WRTC2018] looking for a new team leader
>
> Forwarded on behalf of DL5AXX.
>
> Hello contester,
>
> as the designated team leader of 'AF' had to refuse his participation
> due to personal reasons we would like replace the team 'AF' by a wild
> card team.
>
> So we invite you to send wild card applications for the now open TL
> position with DL1CW as team mate.
> The deadline for the wild card application is Saturday, June 9. 2018
> at 2359z received at
> qualification@wrtc2018.de<mailto:qualification@wrtc2018.de>.
>
> Please explain, why you are applying as TL.
>
> After the deadline, we will choose the new TL as soon as possible.
>
> --
> 73 Ulf, DL5AXX
> WRTC2018 qualifications
>
>
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