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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB disqualified in the 2017 CQ World-Wide WPX SSB Contest
From: Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:53:00 +0300
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4U in DC - new entity?

73,
Jukka OH6LI

2017-10-27 16:04 GMT+03:00 Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>:

> Wait... so let me see if I understand this correctly.
>
>
> 4U1WB was properly and legally licensed by the United Nations, to operate
> out of a UN agency located at a UN office building located in Washington DC.
>
>
> Under DXCC rules in place at the time, 4U1WB did not qualify for separate
> entity status, therefore, it is recognized for DXCC purposes as being
> located in the United States.
>
>
>
> But it is not licensed by the FCC because the US Government recognizes the
> World Bank building as a UN facility that for diplomatic and related legal
> purposes is not under the jurisdiction of the US.  In short, for this
> reason (and all the related details I'm glossing over), it cannot be
> licensed by the FCC.
>
>
> With all that in mind... and after all this time...
>
>
> NOW 4U1WB is disqualified because it does not hold a US license?  A
> license it cannot hold?
>
>
> With no disrespect intended, that's absurd.  Ridiculous.  Almost insane.
>
>
> I thought the whole idea of this level of scrutiny was to catch the people
> who are "cheating".  Not to DQ a legitimate station that has a bit of an
> unusual (but legal) status.
>
> I guess this means we'll be seeing DQWPX 2017 buttons soon, to go along
> with the DQWW 2016 ones that were available at Hamvention & other places?
>
> 73, ron W3WN
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Masa Miura, AJ3M <masa.miura.aj3m@gmail.com>
> To: CQ-Contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: Terry Zivney <n4tz@cqwpx.com>; Richard Moseson <
> w2vu@cq-amateur-radio.com>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 26, 2017 8:17 pm
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB disqualified in the 2017 CQ World-Wide WPX SSB
> Contest
>
> Greetings All:The CQ WPX Contest Committee decided to disqualify 4U1WB in
> the 2017 CQWorld-Wide WPX SSB Contest. The final results were published in
> theSeptember 2017 issue of CQ Magazine and a list of disqualified
> entries,including 4U1WB, is on page 109. See the following website:
> http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/cq_contests/cq_ww_
> wpx_contest/cq_ww_wpx_ssb_contest/2017_cq_ww_wpx_ssb_
> contest/2017_cq_ww_wpx_ssb_line_scores.pdfI sent the email below on
> October 24, 2017 to Terry, N4TZ (n4tz at cqwpx.com),CQ WPX Contest
> Director, regarding the Committee’s decision. Terry has notyet replied to
> me. I also copied Rich, W2VU (w2vu at cq-amateur-radio.com)of CQ
> Magazine, the Contest sponsor.As you will note below, I sent my first email
> to Terry about thedisqualification on October 22. He indicated in his email
> dated October 23to me that 4U1WB was disqualified because the call sign was
> not issued bythe FCC while the log that I submitted showed the United
> States as thecountry of 4U1WB's operation. 4U1WB is a United Nations call
> sign and thestation is located in Washington, DC, the capital of the United
> States.I do not know if Terry or the Contest Committee contacted me by
> emailbefore the disqualification was published. The October 23 email from
> Terrydid not refer to any prior notification. Please see the following from
> theWPX Contest rules:D. Disciplinary Actions: In the event of a violation,
> the entrant issubject to disqualification at the discretion of the
> Committee.1. DISQUALIFICATION: Entry will be listed at the end of the
> publishedresults and is not eligible for an award.2. Notification of
> Committee actions will be sent by email to the addressprovided with the log
> submission. The entrant has five days to appeal thedecision to the Contest
> Director. After that time the decision is final.I looked for such an email
> in my inbox and spam folder after I found out inthe CQ Magazine that 4U1WB
> was disqualified. I did not find any priorcorrespondence from them. I
> cannot say for sure that I was not contacted byemail. I believe that some
> emails are getting lost in cyberspace. It mighthave been in my spam folder
> and was deleted for some reason. However, Iwould like to highlight that the
> Contest Director relied on unreceiptedemail(s) and made such an important
> decision that could have extremelyserious negative impact on a fellow
> contester's reputation in the contestcommunity.I have participated in the
> WPX Contests many times from the 4U1WB clubstation mainly because I enjoy
> contesting and being part of the worldwidecontest community. I will
> probably never win a major contest from the 4U1WBstation. Another reason is
> that the WPX Contest rules include thefollowing: Special event,
> commemorative, and other unique prefix stationsare encouraged to
> participate.If the Contest Director maintains his position and intends to
> disqualify4U1WB again in the future because of the same reason that he
> cited, itmeans that 4U1WB is not welcome to participate in the WPX
> Contests. 4U1WBwill not participate in the future unless a positive outcome
> is achieved.I will keep you all posted.73,Masa-- Masa Miura,
> AJ3Mmasa.miura.aj3m at gmail.comaj3m at arrl.netmasahiro.miura.tu94 at
> dartmouth.eduhttps://www.facebook.com/masahiro.miura.tu94----------
> Forwarded message ----------From: Masa Miura, AJ3M <masa.miura.aj3m at
> gmail.com>Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:08 PMSubject: Fwd: 4U1WB
> disqualification in the 2017 CQ World-Wide WPX SSBContest: No more 4U1WB in
> the WPX Contests in the future?To: k5zd at contesting.com, sbolia at
> woh.rr.com, k6aw at arrl.netCc: Terry Zivney <n4tz at cqwpx.com>, w2vu at
> cq-amateur-radio.com---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Masa
> Miura, AJ3M <masa.miura.aj3m at gmail.com>Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 5:59
> PMSubject: 4U1WB disqualification in the 2017 CQ World-Wide WPX SSB
> Contest:No more 4U1WB in the WPX Contests in the future?To: Terry Zivney
> <n4tz at cqwpx.com>Cc: w0yk at cqwpxrtty.com, f6bee at cqwpx.com, k1ea at
> cqwpx.com, jh4rhf atarrl.net,k1dg at cqwpx.com, k5zd at cqwpx.com, n8bjq
> at cqwpx.com, k6aw at cqwpx.com,w2vu at cq-amateur-radio.comDear
> Terry:Thank you very much for your email below dated October 23, 2017 in
> responseto my email dated October 22, 2017 regarding the CQ WPX Contest
> Committee’sdecision to disqualify 4U1WB in the 2017 CQ World-Wide WPX SSB
> Contest. TheSeptember issue of CQ Magazine included the results for the
> Contest and alist of disqualified entries, including 4U1WB. I participated
> in theContest from the World Bank Group Staff Amateur Radio Club’s station
> inWashington, DC. I am the President of the Club and we use 4U1WB issued
> bythe United Nations because of the World Bank’s status as a
> multinationaldevelopment institution.Please note that the Club is not part
> of or an agent or affiliate of theWorld Bank. It is an association of staff
> members of the World Bank Group.The World Bank Group assumes no liability
> or responsibility for theactivities of the Club.The purpose of this email
> is to request that you, the CQ WPX ContestDirector, (i) reconsider the
> final decision with respect to 4U1WB’sdisqualification; and (ii) inform the
> contest community that the decisionwas completely wrong. I strongly believe
> that 4U1WB was disqualified for novalid reason.You indicated in your email
> that 4U1WB was disqualified because it was notlicensed by the Federal
> Communications Commission (FCC), the licensingauthority of the United
> States, while the log that I submitted showed theUS as 4U1WB’s country of
> operation. More specifically, you stated that4U1WB violated Rule V.
> (Scoring) C2 that I reproduce below:2. Special event, commemorative, and
> other unique prefix stations areencouraged to participate. Prefixes must be
> assigned by the licensingauthority of the country of operation.As stated in
> the attached, 4U1WB has been properly licensed by the UnitedNations and our
> Club is allowed to use the call sign from our station inWashington, DC. The
> call sign was granted in August 1989 under theauthority granted the United
> Nations by the InternationalTelecommunications Union and in coordination
> with the United StatesAdministration. In July 1989, the State Department’s
> Bureau ofInternational Communications and Information Policy stated in a
> letter tothe UN’s Chief of Telecommunication Service that authorities at
> the FederalCommunication Commission, the National Telecommunications and
> InformationAdministration, and the Department of State were consulted about
> theissuance of the 4U1WB call sign. According to the same letter, the
> USAdministration had no objection to the issuance of this call sign by
> theUnited Nations.I am sure that you, as a fellow contester, know that
> considering an entrantfor a disqualification means that the contest
> committee is challenging theoperator’s integrity and sportsmanship. I fully
> understand that the CQ WPXContest Committee’s intention is to protect the
> integrity of thecompetition and address any violations of the trust that
> underliesradiosport competition. My reputation in the worldwide contest
> community isvery important to me. Our Club’s reputation is equally
> important. Thedamage was done.While you might not have seen my own call
> sign AJ3M in many contestresults, I have participated in major contests,
> including those sponsoredby CQ Magazine, as a member of multi teams, such
> as KM4M (at K4JA), KD4D(at N3HBX), B1Z, KE3X (at N3HBX), HG5C, K4VV, and
> E22AAA. I have been amember of the Potomac Valley Radio Club (PVRC) since
> 1997.I contacted you on the 22nd, because the published results did not
> explainwhy 4U1WB was disqualified. In fact, quite a few fellow amateurs
> havealready contacted me to ask me why the CQ WPX Contest
> Committeedisqualified 4U1WB. I promised to them that I will post a
> messageexplaining this incident to the CQ Contest Reflector later this
> week.While I have participated in many major contests, including those
> sponsoredby CQ Magazine, from 4U1WB, 4U1WB has never been
> disqualified.Please note that 4U1WB has a 25-year history of vigorous
> participation inthe CQ WPX Contests and no previous Contest Director has
> ever raised anyissue with the validity of the entry, as can be seen at
> http://www.cqwpx.com/searchbycall.htm?cl=4u1wb&amp;submit=GoIn
> particular, I would like to highlight that the CQ World-Wide WPX
> RTTYContest results for 2017 included 4U1WB’s score as a valid one while
> therule that you cited is also included in the CQ WW WPX RTTY Contestrules.
> http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/cq_contests/cq_ww_rtty_wpx_contest/2017_
> cq_ww_rtty_wpx_contest/2017_07_cq_wpx_rtty_scores.pdfIn addition, I am
> not aware of any disqualifications of 4U stationsproperly licensed by the
> United Nations, such as 4U1VIC at the ViennaInternational Centre in Vienna,
> Austria, in the long history of suchoperations from diverse locations in
> various contests, including the WPXContests.I will share this
> correspondence on the PVRC reflector because the 4U1WBdisqualification
> adversely affected the aggregate score of the PVRC in theclub competition.
> As I mentioned earlier, I will also post a message aboutthis
> disqualification to the CQ Contest Reflector later this week.Please note
> that the members of the CQ WPX Contest Committee and the CQ WPXRTTY Contest
> Director, Ed Muns, W0YK, are copied on this email. In addition,Jun Tanaka,
> JH4RHF, of 4U1VIC, and Rich Moseson, W2VU, of CQ Magazine,
> arecopied.Regards,Masa Miura, AJ3MPresident, World Bank Group Staff Amateur
> Radio ClubOn Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Terry Zivney <n4tz at
> cqwpx.com> wrote:> 4U1WB violated rule 5C2:>> *2.* Special event,
> commemorative, and other unique prefix stations are> encouraged to
> participate. Prefixes must be assigned by the licensing> authority of the
> country of operation.>> 4U1 is not assigned by the FCC, the licensing
> authority of the USA, which> is> what the log of 4U1WB showed as the
> country of operation.>> 73>> Terry N4TZ, CQ WPX Contest Director> On
> Sunday, October 22, 2017 7:30 PM, Masahiro Miura <> masa.miura.aj3m at
> gmail.com> wrote:>>> Terry,>> I am forwarding the email below to you.
> Look forward to hearing from you.>> 73,>> Masa> AJ3M>>>>> *差出人:* Masahiro
> Miura <masa.miura.aj3m at gmail.com>> *日時:* 2017年10月22日 19:27:14 GMT-4>
> *宛先:* questions at cqwpx.com> *件名:* *2017 WPX SSB 4u1wb*>> I participated
> in the WPX SSB Contest this year from 4U1WB. I just found> out that 4U1WB
> was disqualified.>> Can you please explain why?>> Thanks.>> 73,>> Masa>
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