Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog

[W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>]

No because the benefit is gained by being spotted not by spotting.  So 
you would still have people asking to be spotted or having friends do 
it, etc.
We already have self spotting built in because of skimmers and RBN on CW 
and RTTY.
The clusters already have timers in place to curb over spotting.

What is the difference?

W0MU


On 4/20/2017 11:02 AM, John Geiger wrote:
> Suppose we change the rules to allow self spotting in the assisted
> category.  What might be the downsides of that?
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Tom Osborne <w7why1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If someone could explain why we HAVE to have spotting, it might make the
> > discussion more relevant.
> >
> > We got by for 60 years without it and now all of a sudden we can't do a
> > contest without spots???  Sheesh.  73
> > Tom W7WHY
> >
> > On Apr 19, 2017 5:47 PM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How can you shut it all down?  Do you realize how many people are
> > involved
> > > with the clusters?  Plenty of people contest using the clusters and
> > derive
> > > great enjoyment from it.  The clusters were created for DXing not
> > > contesting.
> > >
> > > The solution is to quit blaming the technology and start teaching.
> > >
> > > W0MU
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/2017 4:59 PM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too have been doing this, like Jeff, for a long time.  I don't think
> > the
> > > > "point and click" thing is a god thing for the hobby.  There's an easy
> > way
> > > > to make in very simple and uncomplicated.  Just shut off the RBN and
> > > > cluster
> > > > feeds during the contest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can hear the next complaint with self spotting allowed.  Why do I need
> > > > to
> > > > give my callsign on the air.  Everyone knows I am on this frequency from
> > > > the
> > > > spot.  Oh and the spot comment field has my exchange too.  So just a
> > > > broadcast of the caller and his exchange is necessary.  The self
> > spotting
> > > > running station can just say thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is this honestly the desired outcome of the contest community?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Re read Jeff's post and see if a different conclusion is more desirable
> > > > than
> > > > allowing self spotting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Laziness is killing us folks.  Harder is more interesting and rewarding.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ed  N1UR
> > > >
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