I always Operate Field day as One Alpha. I sold the Alpha and now it
is one Elecraft or One Ameritron. Did anyone care? Nope! Did I get a
lot of laughs. Yep. Did I submit a log.......Nope.
W0MU
On 3/9/2017 1:35 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
Clearly not everyone agrees with a common definition of "participating in the
contest"
IMHO:
I can choose to OPERATE in a contest (or not), and by doing so, I could be considered as
a "participant"
I can then choose to SUBMIT a log afterwards to the contest sponsors (or not), and by
doing so, would definitely be considered as a "participant"
So is Operating in the contest the same as Participating? Personally, I'd say
"yes" -- but participating or operating does not mean that I expect or plan to
submit a log (for scoring) or check log (for any of a number of reasons too numerous to
mention).
And... if I operate in the contest but am operating "casually", and/or don't follow the
contest rules (such as using packet as a single op, or not strictly follow power limitations, etc)
-- which can happen when I don't plan to submit a log to the sponsor afterwards -- I'm still
"participating". I simply operated, had fun, and moved on to the next thing, and that is
all.
That doesn't make me a competitor in the contest. Just a participant.
Submitting or planning to submit the log for scoring purposes? That makes me a
competitor.
For example...
The annual Mooselvannia State QSO Party was last weekend. The contest rules
limit competitors to 200 W output and for single ops, no packet use (why?
Because this is a rhetorical situation). But it so happens I needed
Mooselvannia on 15 meters CW for 5BWAS purposes, and three or four counties for
USA-CA purposes. So I cranked up the amp, watched the cluster, and got
everything I needed.
Did I participate? Yes.
Was I a competitor? Well, since I only worked what I needed, and didn't bother
to submit a log to the sponsor, the Flying Squirrel ARC, no. But I had fun, I
had a goal, and I accomplished it. And those folks who I worked? Hopefully
they appreciated it.
73, ron w3wn
On 03/09/17, Jim Brown wrote:
No, it doesn't imply that at all. When you work a station calling CQ
Contest, you are participating in the contest.
Put another way -- it's perfectly legal to call a station in your
country who's calling CQ DX, but it's not a nice thing to do, and the
other station has every right to be pissed off. :)
73, Jim K9YC
On Thu,3/9/2017 5:50 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
That would imply that NAQP entrants have exclusive use of the bands during
NAQP which is not the case.
I am not competing for anything in NAQP, stew or any other contest if I
work a few contacts and don't submit a log. (I do submit a checklog out of
courtesy sometimes) It is very much unreasonable to ask non participants to
abide by the rules, plain and simple.
Ria
N2RJ
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 12:50 PM Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
wrote:
On Tue,3/7/2017 8:47 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
Those rules, and any rules, only apply to people actually entering the
contest. Those who merely play radio during a contest with no intention of
filing a contest entry may use whatever technology is permitted by their
licence classes.
When you participate in a contest by working other contesters, you have
entered the contest. You are competing for contacts, and use of spots
and high power give you an advantage over other callers. When you win
the QSO after a call, you have disadvantaged another operator. Likewise,
when you splatter or have a wide CW signal, you disadvantage other
operators. One of the pleasures of NAQP is that it is a 100W contest
with no spotting for single ops. Another pleasure is that it's a team
competition for single ops.
What signals ‘sound like’ can certainly be deceiving. Many times I have
been running compromise antennas at less than 100w and been told I’m the
loudest guy on the band, but that’s simply the perfect alignment of skip
zones and takeoff angles. I often had trouble being heard by other
operators in the same general area.
Yes, but when signals are from the same general area and one is a lot
louder, you know. :)
73, Jim K9YC
73, kelly, ve4xt,
I'm regularly disappointed that a significant number of NAQP
participants don't obey the rules that require that a single-op be
non-assisted and no more than 100W, as indicated by obvious
cluster-inspired peaks of activity, and signals that sure don't sound like
100W.
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