The only rant I have seen so far is yours. I was simply providing my
experiences. You don't have to agree with me.
The delete key is over there.
73
On 2/26/2017 12:09 PM, Peter Sundberg wrote:
Mike, I am getting pretty tired of your constant plea (rant) for new
rules that allow everything that the Internet can provide at the cost
of diminishing RF communication to a mere fraction of the game.
Please, do us a favour - write down and publish your set of rules for
the perfect contest and go look for a sponsor for it. Sponsors must be
standing in line waiting for your info as you have so eloquently told
the world that old style contesting is dead. Especially dead for us
who prefer the challenge of "unassisted" contesting.
So, it must be time for your type of contesting now, else we're all
bored to death before long. Go for it, you know what it takes to
attract people.
When you have found a sponsor for your contest, let us know the dates
so we can mark them in our almanac. For other activities.
Peter SM2CEW
At 16:33 2017-02-26, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
and when there are few contacts to me made or found, people stop
looking and do something else.
W0MU
On 2/26/2017 10:04 AM, Ed K1EP wrote:
"The point of contests should be to make lots of contacts. "
Not necessarily. The point for some, is to FIND lots of contacts,
not just make them. Everyone is different. When single op, I don't
use spotting or packet, I prefer the challenge. When at a MM, I
adapt to whatever the setup, but I still turn the knob to find
contacts more than clicking.
On Feb 26, 2017 10:49 AM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com
<mailto:w0mu@w0mu.com>> wrote:
I am very surprised that nobody has created a huge multi user
version of DR. DX for the internet. I would be great fun. DR. DX
was pretty amazing for the time. I know there is a modern day
equivalent but it has not been implemented on a large scale where
everyone is tied together, scoreboard, etc.
This is one reason that Ham radio is having problems attracting
and getting people on the air. You can engage with people all
over the globe very easily and for free. No huge towers or
investments needed. Talking to someone in Russian, Germany,
Japan, or wherever is much more common today. I probably have
more foreign friends on Facebook than I do local.
Radiosport and ham radio are about having fun and learning for
me. Sitting and calling endless CQ's on RTTY is not fun. The
point of contests should be to make lots of contacts. If the
rules are reducing the amount of contacts then we have failed. Are
more contacts made when packet is allowed? I think so. NAQP RTTY
last night might be an example. Packet is discouraged and I
noticed a number of people that were discouraged from the contest
for just that reason.
There is nothing magical, mystical or fantastic about unassisted
anymore. For me it is something that has become archaic, old and
very much behind the times. I have a buggy for my draft horse and
it is fun to drive now and then but I much prefer to hop in my
pickup truck to get around town. Many of the rules are difficult
at best to enforce, power, packet, etc and then when the rules are
enforced the decisions of the organizers are criticized when there
has been no real proof provided by either side.
Interesting times we are in.
W0MU
On 2/26/2017 6:21 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
Why don't we just skip the radio part and just work each other
in a chat
room. That would be the fairest right?
Radiosport is ABOUT communicating over the airwaves and
putting what we hear
in the log. Not about accepting what the bandmap populated
and hitting
enter. Its also about the technical challenge of producing a
good loud
signal and being able to hear. Otherwise its essentially
gaming. There are
lots of outlets for people wanting to game.
I was CQing on 160 last night and had 2 EU stations call me
that clearly
could not hear me but were broadcasting a Q (faking it), from
the spot, to
try and get the Vermont Mult into the log. I can hear them
with my
beverages no problem.
I personally think Self Spotting is the end of contesting as
we know it and
should NEVER be allowed.
At least with the RBN, a radio does have to pick you up to put
it on the
net.
Until there is an SSB RBN, the effort should be for fairer
spotting. The
easiest way is for the major contest clubs around the world to
implore their
members to set the "spot all S & P" on their software programs
and for that
to be the default position for programs going forward. How
hard is that?
Ed N1UR
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