What a huge potential in the proposals for selfspotting:
Allowing them in unlimited number will force competitors to use this
tool to the max thus evolving sophisticated software schemes to optimize
CQing on the net. Adapting the frequency of selfspots and choosing the
best distribution among channels Cluster, twitter, Facebook, Chatrooms
to adapt the signal strength on the web for optimal pileup density. Of
course needed are fitting hashtags and good SocialMedia strategy to
attract specific regions at specific times. Huge challenge for software
devlopers and ops. MultiOp teams might even need additional Ops with
SocialMedia expertise.
With limited number of allowed selfspots organizers will have to move
their back to develop additional checking tools and expand the rule
books to answer questions like how to deal with third party spots. Will
they reduce the number of allowed spots or better allow to save unused
spots - which then should lead to an online stock exchange to trade
unused selfspots. And once the lawyers in us are attractied to this
rules set: We need different values for each spot as spots at the
beginning of a run should be much pricier than "accelerating" spots
during a run. We therefore need a formula to determine the exact value
of a spot depending on rate, category, used web channel (i.e. twitter
cheaper than Facebook for having smaller audience) average rates of this
op and other stations in this zone in present and former contests,
actual K-index, antennas, age of operator.
No doubt that it will come one way or another as "convenience" always
has won.
Small tongue in cheek comment: Talk about spotting somewhat reminds to
teenagers for whom free Wifi access seems to be kind of a basic human
right.
73 Chris DL8MBS
P.S.: Injected self spots of irony hopefully not yet reason for DQ ;-)
Am 26.02.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Jukka Klemola:
Sirs,
I have difficulties following this discussion.
There are people selling the idea to allow self-spotting.
Which way are we going:
-allowing CQ calling on internet
-keeping the un-assisted category
.. or are we developing extreme double.standard or what is going on?
A glimpse into the Pandora's box we are now cranking open:
Is a station using CQoIP but claims not using spotting data, is such
entrant un-assisted?
73,
Jukka OH6LI
2017-02-26 3:04 GMT+02:00 Joe <nss@mwt.net>:
I also like this self spotting.
BUT..... and there always is a BUT isn't there? I like the three QSO's
rule, BUT. there needs to also be a max per hour?
Then gain here we are, back to the same problem, UG!
I can just see someone spotting themself after every q.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/24/2017 4:30 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
Yes. This is what I wrote about a year and a half ago:
2015-10-28 4:06 GMT+01:00 Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>:
There should be a rule allowing the software to automatically submit a
self spot after you have logged perhaps three QSOs on the same frequency -
same rule for everyone. After all, when you call CQ on CW you are, in
effect, self spotting. There is a huge advantage in being spotted and, on
SSB, there is a huge difference in the number of spots for different
stations giving advantage to those who are spotted frequently and quickly
after a frequency change. 73... Stan, K5GO
On Feb 24, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW
Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW
Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on a
network of friends to spot you.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer. Right
now, we have a system where "those with the right friends" have an
advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?
73,
Steve, N2IC
On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the hands of
RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming unfair treatment
in
adjudication. However in this case having looked at the information
supplied and done a little further digging, I am unsure my empathy is
justified.
3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians KG5OUE
and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it. I am inclined to
believe
him, given some of my own friends have spotted me during contests and I
have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone to do so.
That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact with
Switzerland. Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest from 3V8SM
on
Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD. Ash (3V8SS) + F4HJD + 3V8CB had
activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of months earlier.
The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the events
not
entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the same calls crop up
repetitively raise questions. Perhaps it's all an extraordinary
coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to wonder whether my
empathy
might have been misplaced.
Bob, 5B4AGN
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
WRTC
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After reading your post and based on your response to the committee, I
would
conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA are nitpickers with an
agenda.
If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's
decision,
then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe you were
unfairly
DQd.
Doug
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Ashraf Chaabane
Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
To: cq-contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
WRTC
Mike, Ria and all,
I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to
you to
comment!
73
--
Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
http://www.kf5eyy.info/
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Skype: kf5eyy
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