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Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Revised Rules

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Revised Rules
From: Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:52:09 -0500
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Using packet and not turning in a log is certainly an option.
Running high power, and not turning in a log is also an option.
Using packet, and be classified as a multi-op is also an option.  This also
allows you to operate all 12 hours of the contest.
Submitting a check-log is also an option.


There are any number of contests  that do not allow packet for single-ops.
RAC contests also have the same rule.  Packet makes you a muti-op, and
there is no M2 class.

If it helps - I frequently do use packet in other contests, so I am well
aware of the good/bad aspects of packet.  I am quite happy that NAQP does
NOT allow packet for single ops.

Not *every* contest needs to be a point and click contest.  Just as each
contest has its own flavour - mults, operating times, etc. - no packet is
just one aspect that makes this a fun contest.

If spinning the dial is too much effort, then by all means - use packet.
Just follow the rules, and be classified as a multi-op, or a check-log.
Seems pretty simple.


Suggesting that folks use packet, and then submit as single-op suggests
that folks are NOT following the rules.  If true, I feel sad for them.
The rules are simple, and if packet/high power/etc. is REALLY that hard to
live without for one contest - or set of contests, they DO have options.
One can only hope they are brave enough to submit their logs under the
proper category - as listed in the rules.

Tom - VE3CX




On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:04 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

> Working mults and using packet is a different skill set.  I know a lot of
> people that like it. Some like to work just mults, etc.  To each their
> own.  Spinning the dial doesn't teach me anything.
>
> Packet is allowed in this contest . If you use it and you are a single op
> with one radio you get classified into a class of multi operator with two
> transmitters.  Once again they can do whatever they want.
>
> If you want to not include packet then remove it for M2 as well or not.
> Apparently this contest needs packet but just not for Single Ops.  A bit of
> hypocrisy here don't you think?
>
> What other contest dumps single ops into a M2 class because they use
> packet that has been in contesting for how many years now.
>
> Congrats on having more participants that the contest can handle, no need
> to find new ways to keep people interested.   <Sarcasm off>  Back under my
> rock.
>
> I am willing to be that many use packet anyway and turn in SO scores or
> they don't turn in scores.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/13/2016 8:22 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
>
> There was some discussion about this issue some months ago here on
> CQ-Contest.  The consensus was - no packet for single ops, and it seems
> like a great option.  *Every* contest does not need packet for single ops -
> just need to learn to spin the dial, or call CQ (a lot) to find those
> elusive mults!  Consider it a chance to improve your contesting skills.
>
> Not sure why this (continuation) of the rules for single ops will suddenly
> discourage folks from getting on, as participation seems quite good with
> the current rules.
>
> Next thing you know, single ops with one radio will complain about folks
> who have two radios/do SO2R, and state they need to be in a separate class
> :<evil grin>.
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:51 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
>
>> So you either operate SO no assistance or you get stuffed into a M2?
>> There is no M1?  Why the bias against packet?  So If I want to use packet
>> and chase mults all over I get dumped into a class where there are people
>> using two transmitters at the same time?
>>
>> Explain to me how these changes or rules encourage people to get on?
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>> W0MU
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2016 1:55 PM, Chris Hurlbut wrote:
>>
>>> The North American QSO Party rules have been revised!
>>>
>>> Current rules found here:  http://ncjweb.com/NAQP-Rules.pdf
>>>
>>> Please take a moment to read them as there are some significant changes.
>>>
>>> Including, but not limited to:
>>> - Expanded multiplier list (Certain stations out east, rejoice!)
>>> - Off time rule clarification.
>>> - Output power clarification
>>> - M/2 classification clarification
>>> - Log entry deadline changed to 5 days
>>>
>>> Please pass this info along to any and all reflectors that may find it
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> Contest logging software authors, please update your NAQP multiplier
>>> lists
>>> where applicable.
>>>
>>> NAQP CW is January 14th, SSB is January 21st, and RTTY is February 25th!
>>> See you there!
>>>
>>> -Chris KL9A
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