Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules Question M2 CQ WW

[W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>]

The way K5ZD explained it you can have 100 radios as long as only two 
are transmitting at a time you are fine and you adhere to the 8 band 
changes per transmitter rule you should be ok.  How you manage that is 
up to you.
You can have 3 or 300 radios on 20m and interlace contacts and those are 
not band changes.  Obviously that becomes very difficult if the rate is 
fast.
If you want to understand this better go check out the public logs for 
the high scoring M2 and MS entries.
I noticed one instance where in the middle of a 6 qso run on 20m a 2nd 
xmitter worked a WA5 at the start of the contest.  This makes me wonder 
if they might have had too many signals transmitting at the same time.  
I would hope that the log checkers have a way to flag this type of stuff 
to check the recordings.
I am not clear on how the log checking can figure out the 8 band changes 
per "run" transmitter but I suspect they have it figured out.
W0MU


On 10/8/2016 10:50 PM, Helmut Mueller wrote:
> Hi guys.
>
> It does! You can use Radio 3 to "steal" band changes from both run radios. More 
> or less 4 QSOs per RUN = 8  QSOs per hour x 48 = 384 extra QSOs and hopefully mults. 
> Sometimes you can squeeze mor QSOs in a band change if the run is slow.
>
> Anyhow ... you have to PREVENT 3 TX signals at any times. We have seen DQs 
> because of 3 signals on air.
>
> 73
>
> Helmut
>
>
>
> > Jamie WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> hat am 9. Oktober 2016 um 03:10 geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > I don’t believe M2 allows a mult transmitter (like M/S) ....and you cannot
> > move "freely" , I believe you are limited to 8 band changes per hour....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Ruz / CO8DM
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2016 3:06 PM
> > To: Tom Haavisto ; W0MU Mike Fatchett ; CQ Contest
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules Question M2 CQ WW
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > We don´t have so many radios...Only 3 radios...2 RUN and 1 MULT.
> >
> > I think the MULT station can MOVE FREELY from band to band without any
> > 10minutes limit..It that OK?...Maybe I am wrong. If so, please, let me know.
> >
> > I am building a hardware with some relays to avoid 2 TX signals in the same
> > band in the case the MULT try work some mults in the same band one of the
> > RUN stations are working.
> >
> > I hope N1MM or Wintest identify this very clear in the log.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Doug, CO8DM
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Haavisto" <kamham69@gmail.com>
> > To: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>; "CQ Contest"
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2016 12:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules Question M2 CQ WW
> >
> >
> > > I did an M2 at NQ4I a couple of years ago.  We had two radios per band, and
> > > a total of six radios.  Two radios per band interlocked - only one could
> > > transmit at a time (hardware interlock).  One run radio, one mult radio.
> > >
> > > When we did a band change - say "radio 1" was going from 10 to 20 meters.
> > > We would stop TX on 10 meters, designate 20 meters as "radio 1", and away
> > > we went with a different pair of radios.  That was one band change.
> > >
> > > With M2, you are assisted - allowed to look at the cluster.  We could line
> > > up 20 meter mults, ready to go when TX moved to 20.  Once we worked a
> > > bunch
> > > of mults of 20, we could then move back to 10 meters (ie radio 1), and
> > > this
> > > counted as band change # 2 for radio 1.
> > >
> > > This activity was independent of what "radio 2" was doing.
> > >
> > > The TX must be identified in the Cabrillo log file - radio 1 or radio 2.
> > > Logging software takes care of this.
> > >
> > > Does this help?
> > >
> > > Tom - VE3CX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 11:40 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like some clarification on the Multi 2 transmitter rule.
> > > >
> > > >  From the CQ WW Rules Website:
> > > >
> > > > *2. Two Transmitters (MULTI-TWO):* A maximum of two transmitted signals
> > > > on
> > > > two different bands may be used at any time.
> > > >
> > > > The log must indicate which transmitter made each QSO.
> > > >
> > > > Each transmitter may make a maximum of 8 band changes in any clock hour
> > > > (00 through 59 minutes).
> > > >
> > > > Total output power must not exceed *1500 watts* on any band at any time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Line one says Two transmitters.  Does this really mean just two
> > > > transmitters per the contest period?  Rig 1 and Rig 2 and you can have as
> > > > many receivers as you want and operators but all contacts need to be made
> > > > using rig 1 and rig 2?
> > > >
> > > > W0MU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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