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Re: [CQ-Contest] Pre-register to Play (Was: DXC Entry Reclassified to Hi

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>, CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Pre-register to Play (Was: DXC Entry Reclassified to High Power)
From: <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 04:33:00 +0000
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I didn’t express my thoughts very well, Mike.  Let me try again.

Two thoughts to set the stage..

1) In most contests there are a core group who are involved in the test in a 
serious fashion.  I don’t know what that fraction is, but let’s “round up” and 
say maybe 50% in SS, maybe 20% in CQWW, maybe 10% in IARU.  Just for 
illustration purposes, let’s say that the average for all tests is 25% (I think 
that’s wildly generous).  Those 25% are likely going to comply with a 
Pre-Register rule.
2) The remaining 75% of the participants are casuals, drop-ins, or otherwise 
not “seriously involved”.  They are highly unlikely to comply with a 
48-hour-prior registration rule.

If group 2 QSO’s don’t count, and group 1 has a software roster of “good” 
calls, then group 1 is going to become inbred very quickly, and the logs are 
gonna be pretty thin.

73, de Hans, KØHB
"Just a boy and his radio"™

From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:49 AM
To: kzerohb@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pre-register to Play (Was: DXC Entry Reclassified to High Power)

This idea is exactly what we are being told RDXC is.  If they don't get a log 
from me and I work people my qso's with them are apparently tossed out.   At 
least that is the way I the UA9 was explaining it.  I could be wrong but other 
have had qso's tossed that were known good contacts so it appears that this is 
the way this contest operates.
Having a contest where everyone signs up has nothing to do with those that go 
to the medal stand, it it is more about trying to identifying and then having 
as many if not all the logs to compare for scoring.  
I understand that many of us just wander into a contest and want to help.  That 
is not what this was about.

On 10/5/2016 8:35 PM, kzerohb@gmail.com wrote:
Mike, I think that this idea is DOA.
 
1) In the whole universe of contesters for any given worldwide or 
continental-scope contest, there is an almost invisible fraction of players who 
will go to the medal stand.  These folks (mostly) know who they are, and they 
would observe the 48-hour-prior registration deadline.
2) Some other small fraction, hopefuls, rising stars, 
soldiers-who-always-follow-orders, etc., would take enough time to sift through 
the rules and discover this “Register to Play” rule, and comply.
3) The remainder of us “Joe Sixpack” guys who drop in to just make a few Q’s, 
to practice for a different contest, to contribute some points to Minnesota 
Wireless,  to fill up some zone-dxcc-iota-state band/mode slots, or to 
(whatever), would ignore (or maybe not even know about) this rule, and would be 
shunned as “score reductions” and this reflector would be graced by yet one 
more persistent thread with a subject line about “My Q wasn’t good enough for 
them”.
 
73, de Hans, KØHB
"Just a boy and his radio"™
 
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:09 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DXC Entry Reclassified to High Power
 
I think this idea could actually work is all entrants were required to 
sign up 48 hours prior to the event.  24 hours from the event a list of 
entrants would be made available so that you could update your software 
to alert you to stations not in the contest and you could choose to work 
them or not.  It still would not solve the issue where someone fails to 
send in a log but if someone took the time to sign up they probably 
would send in a log and the organizers would have an email address to 
ask for it in the case they forgot, etc.
 


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