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By any objective measure, I am probably a certified geezer, too :-)
I see CW as a viable, useful mode - regardless of whether it's fun or 
not - for a variety of things.  It's simple to build CW rigs, requires 
no supporting systems to decode or generate, and crams all of the energy 
into a minimum bandwidth - it's the most efficient mode that can be 
copied by a human.  I wouldn't call it a "Model T" - I consider it more 
of a "Jeep" ('48 Willys in four-wheel drive?). 
That said, setting aside fully half of the available data sub-band for 
it (and RTTY) is not justified on any number of considerations.  Band 
usage by the different modes should ebb and flow with need, 
effectiveness, and preference.  If there's a big CW contest on, I expect 
to hear lots of signals up to the edge of the data/RTTY sub-band and 
beyond.  When Bouvet comes on, I suspect the data stations will 
experience radiation pressure from thousands of CW geezers having fun.  
Other times, I have no problem with data modes filling up the otherwise 
unused space and requiring CW operators to tune around the band.  I am 
fully willing to mix it up and compete - that's what we're supposed to 
be doing according to 97.1. 
73, Ward N0AX
On 8/23/2016 6:00 PM, Charles Harpole wrote:
 Ward, I would like to have a Model T, not because it is "up to date" 
but because IT IS FUN.
Lots of hams are old;  old is fun, too.
73, Charly
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com 
<mailto:hwardsil@gmail.com>> wrote: 
    First, I do agree with N9NB that there needs to be a bandwidth
    limit in the amateur bands - this has been confirmed by the FCC in
    numerous communications and opinions about overly-wide phone
    signals and also by 97.307(f)(1) which limits the modulation index
    of angle-modulated phone emissions to less than 1 at the highest
    modulating frequency.  Clearly, the idea of a maximum bandwidth is
    considered good practice in the phone sub-bands and a similar
    limit in the RTTY/data sub-bands does not need to strangle
    technical innovation. Nevertheless, it is not sufficient to rely
    on the "necessary" and "good practice" wording in 97.303(1)
    because neither is strong enough to be meaningful without creating
    endless arguments and perceived loopholes.  So just place a
    reasonable "roofing bandwidth" on amateur radio emissions below 30
    MHz - 3 kHz? 6 kHz? 10 kHz? - and let us sort it out as we do
    every day!
 
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