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Re: [CQ-Contest] Convergence and Change

To: Mark Bailey <kd4d@comcast.net>, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Convergence and Change
From: Yuri Blanarovich <k3bu@optimum.net>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:51:28 -0400 (EDT)
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Sooo, your car is the "assistant", so is washing machine, telephone, computer, software, pencil, keyer?

Aren't we looking for definition who is assisting by gathering call/freq outside you and your shack???
 Another PERSON or Gadget outside your station?

There is difference if you use your station and gadgets for operating - FINDING Call/Freq vs. SOMEONE ELSE via whatever. I hope you realize that is harder to run skimmer at your own QTH with constant CQing, vs. streaming river of calls from world-wide skimmers, spotters, feeders. The big question is who is doing the hunting, you, me, or bunch of other assistant hunters holding the bear for you. Your gun, rifle, cannon, binoculars are your tools, not some assistant feeding you dead bears.

73 Yuri, K3BU.us
 
 On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 01:55 PM, Mark Bailey wrote:
 
 > Hi Yuri:

You are proposing a significant rule change. Some of us believe that software within the station, providing the same information as the packet cluster (other operators and/or remote software) should continue to be excluded in single operator categories.

73,

Mark, KD4D


On May 26, 2016 11:38:27 AM EDT, Yuri Blanarovich  wrote:
Why is it so hard to accept and use sensible definitions of SO and SOA?

SO - Single Operator - station operated by single, one, operator
without "ASSISTANCE" by SOMEONE ELSE via any means - be in the shack, over internet, phone, ESP, whatever.... That means NOT someone/something else outside of own shack is gathering

info on call, frequency, etc. and communicating to Single Operator. Technology in one's own shack is OK, own Skimmer at the QTH is OK. Remote, outside of own QTH "suppliers of call/freq", persons or gadgets

are assistance by someone else - NOT OK!

SAO - Single Operator Assisted - station operated by single, one, operator with ASSISTANCE by Someone/Something Else outside of own
shack, via any means, providing Call/Frequency info.

Normal people, SO, would do hunting on their own, with own rifle, find the bear and "nail" him. Feels good!

"Assisted" people SAO would have army of hunters, finding the bear,
kill him and then yell: "come, here is the bear, kill him!" Click, gotcha!

But Hams have a problem figuring what the ASSISTANCE is. Huge discussions about - is the pencil, keyer, computer, etc. assistant?

Personally, I would like to see the "assistance" by Internet go away or

be restricted to use. Just like DXing was ruined by nets, list, contesting is being poisoned by Internet spoon feeding Call/Freq. Instead of preserving pure hunting aspect, we get crazy pileups, frequency hogging, unsportsman like behavior, hunting dead bears.

Don't get me started on "rentastations" - hey, its me, in someone
else's skin!

Have fun, whatever is left of it!

73 Yuri, K3BU.us
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da place for conventions, weddings, concerts,...

 
 
 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Jack Haverty wrote:
 

So, I'd like to see a split of assisted versus unassisted based on those observations, with the following basic definitions:

Unassisted - a station using technology, of any kind, to communicate using only ham radio waves. All communication across the station boundary (building, 100-meter circle, whatever) must be performed using ham radio. Within the station boundary, other forms of communication may be used.

Assisted - a station using technology, of any kind, to communicate
not
only using radio waves, but also using other forms of communications across the station boundary for whatever purpose the operator wishes.

All contact exchanges (whatever that means) must however be accomplished only by ham radio communications.

In other words, Unassisted means you use only ham radio; assisted means you may use other forms of communications as well.

73,
/Jack de K3FIV

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