When I'm DX, I always try to move when asked if the move-band is open,
and if I can do it relatively easy via the 2nd radio, or quick enough
to come back and not lose my run frequency, *and* if the pileup isn't
too big. If I can't move, I will either set a sked or say "I'll be at
1822 at 0430z".
I do this even when I'm single-op, because I appreciate it when other
DX moves for me when I ask. Turn-about is fair play, and at the end of
the contest, it may have taken an extra 1-2 minutes, certainly I can
afford that especially when I sleep for 8+ hours in a 48 hour contest
:) I would encourage more folks to move if at all possible - but when
it makes sense to do so. Don't leave a high-rate pileup without a
pretty good reason!
73 de N6GQ (aka YN2AA, 4K9Z, etc., etc.)
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are multiops who are QRV on other bands.
> Singleops usually say no to a QSY request.
> Successful multiops typically welcome QSY requests.
> The most successful say right away where they can QSY right or they propose
> a sked.
>
> It is good manners to try and give more QSOs in a contest.
>
>
> 73,
> Jukka OH6LI
>
>
> 2016-02-27 15:40 GMT+02:00 ve4xt@mymts.net <ve4xt@mymts.net>:
>
>> Wow. I'd never ask a station running to QSY, and certainly wouldn't be
>> such a knob as to berate someone for not. I don't mind getting the question
>> when I'm s&p, but I don't feel beholden to agree, even though I normally do.
>>
>> I was asked once while I was running, and while I wasn't doing SO2R, I did
>> have another radio ready to go. So I told the guy to call me there. Kept an
>> ear on his target frequency and kept running. Heard nothing on the target
>> frequency. He came back to my run frequency and asked "Aren't you going to
>> move?" I told him again, call me there, I'm listening. Nothing.
>>
>> Maybe it was just propagation, but I did hear others from his area on that
>> second band. I suspect it was just a scam to usurp my run frequency.
>>
>> Steve, you weren't asking folks on their run frequency to chase you, were
>> you? If so, I don't blame them for not.
>>
>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Steve,
>> >
>> >
>> > I can't speak for any other little pistol or squirt gun out there, but
>> over the years I've learned a bit of a distaste when someone asks me to QSY
>> to another band.
>> >
>> >
>> > I've had the request made on one of those rare times I have a run
>> frequency going. If I've got people calling me, I'm not leaving. Worse,
>> I've had people ask this, I would go and work the other band (and I don't
>> always have propagation at the time), and on my return find that the
>> station that asked me "as a courtesy" was now working my run frequency as
>> his.
>> >
>> > When I'm doing S&P, again, I may not have propagation to that part of
>> the world on the other band at that time. And I may have other reasons for
>> not wanting to QSY at that time.
>> >
>> >
>> > But the biggest reason I've come to dislike the requests... when (and
>> this happens primarily on voice modes) I'm asked and I decline, the other
>> guy starts giving me an argument. I'm in the middle of a run, I have a
>> half-dozen people calling, and someone wants me to stop cold and discuss
>> why I want to stay put, or don't want to go to another band right then and
>> there?
>> >
>> >
>> > Now, I don't mind if, while doing S&P, the op of a M/2 or M/M tells me
>> that their other station is on, well, whatever frequency. Especially
>> during the Sunday "doldrums". As long as they simply mention it. Again,
>> though, when the other op demands to know why not... I mean, really. It's
>> not like a W3 from PA is exactly rare, and I get that they'd like to
>> maximize the number of Q's on each band.
>> >
>> >
>> > So please don't take it personally if I don't QSY to another band.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, ron w3wn
>> >
>> > On 02/26/16, sbloom@acsalaska.net wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm not sure changing the exchange is realistic (though man that *IS* a
>> > great idea) ...but I will comment that I find it increasingly difficult
>> > to communicate *anything* other than the contest exchange with most
>> > folks. I always try to get guys late in the contest ..if/when things
>> > are slow ..to QSY to other bands ..and I'm probably down to 1 or 2 in
>> > 10 ...giving me any answer at all ..yes or no ...no matter how much I
>> > QRS. Probably not much that can be done ..as code readers become more
>> > popular ..but it does suck.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Steve KL7SB
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:09:21 -0500, Jeff Clarke wrote:
>> >
>> > A simple solution. Make the callsign part of the exchange like
>> > SS. For example if I work P40W he would send KU8E P40W 5NN 5.
>> >
>> > There were several stations this past weekend in ARRL DX that wouldn't
>> > even send their call until they weren't being called by anyone anymore.
>> > Some others would work between 5-10 stations before they sent their
>> > call.
>> >
>> > I blame alot of this problem on the dumbing down of DX contesting (and
>> > DXing in general) caused by packet spotting. Most casual DX contesters
>> > like SOA and just click on packet spots and work people. No skill
>> > needed anymore to copy a call or have any knowledge about propagation
>> > to know which band to be on to maximize your score. To me it's similar
>> > to catching fish in a barrel. Those on the other end of the pileup know
>> > this and this is why they don't ID frequently. It's very frustrating
>> > for those who still like to be unassisted.
>> >
>> > It's obvious to me that many of these people also can't copy CW other
>> > then their own call. I had a situation on 15 CW Sunday morning in ARRL
>> > CW that I had a bunch of dupes that started calling me. Someone had
>> > probably spotted my call wrong. It was amazing to me that many of those
>> > that called were well known contest calls. They still called even
>> > though I was sending my call every QSO. I checked the spots of my
>> > callsign after the contest and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't
>> > until someone spotted me with the comment "call correction" that the
>> > dupes stopped.
>> >
>> > BTW, I'm not against SOA. I guess I'm just old fashioned because it's
>> > just not challenging to me. I like to find stations and band openings
>> > on my own. That's more thrilling to me. To each his own. If you get a
>> > thrill from clicking on spots all weekend long, more power to you.
>> >
>> > Kudos to guys like K3WW and AA3B who have good stations, are great run
>> > operators and they know how to interleave spots between their runs to
>> > maximize their score.
>> >
>> > Jeff KU8E
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