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Re: [CQ-Contest] Your Call?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Your Call?
From: Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:16:49 -0500
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Almost all the comments in this thread is about what the RUN station is
doing wrong. An interesting perspective on this is applying the FCC (since
we are in the USA) rule on identifying. 97.119 (a) says:

 Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must
transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of
each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication,
for the purpose of clearly making the source of the transmissions from the
station known to those receiving the transmissions. No station may transmit
unidentified communications or signals, or transmit as the station call
sign, any call sign not authorized to the station.

So the RUN station begins his communication with a CQ (a call to any
station), and responds to all callers, and is on;y required to identify
every 10 minutes and when he is done. He is certainly allowed to do it
more, and we would appreciate that. HOWEVER, all stations, including those
calling the RUN station are required to sent their call "at the end of each
communication". With the exception of RTTY contests, I rarely see ID at the
end of communication, and I am not excluding myself from this practice.
IDing at the end would sure slow the RUN station down, and you are just
following the rules. --73, Mike, WV2ZOW

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:36 AM, ve4xt@mymts.net <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:

> Drew wrote:
>
> > The other fellow (sorry, forgot the call) about just having fun and not
> being vindictive.  You are right and it is a good message to throw in the
> mix.  This isn't an attack.  That being said, we can still strive for best
> practices, and this can include up to DQ for the really bad actors.
>
> >
>
> The best answer here -- work him, ask for his call, NIL if refused --
> isn't about being vindictive, it's simply about giving him the chance to do
> the right thing. The NIL at the end is required by the rules: if you don't
> know who you worked, how can you call it a Q?
>
> Plus, no rule or even common courtesy would demand you continue listening
> until he finally does ID. Especially since if you let these guys affect
> your S&P performance, you have only yourself to blame. Lots of fish in the
> sea...
>
> Vindictive would be to work him, not ask for his call and then NIL him
> without having given him the opportunity to earn your Q.
>
> Then again, if we all simply ignored these arses, they'd have no pileups.
> It's not unreasonable to ask: If you don't know who it is, why are you even
> calling?
>
> Somehow, I don't think our pack mentality would allow it.
>
> On phone, when the guy says you're a dupe, at least you can answer "But
> you never ID, so how would I have known?"
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
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