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Re: [CQ-Contest] Logging question

To: k9yc@arrl.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Logging question
From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Meanwhile all of my cards to Jim (dozens over the years) remain unanswered, 
even though I use LoTW as per his requirements.  Sigh.




73, de KØHB




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Sent from my Heathkit H89

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
wrote:

> On Sat,8/8/2015 12:43 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
>> Com'on, then use the ARRL bureau and DX cards will cost you next to 
>> nothing! We have a superb QSL bureau system in most of this world's 
>> countries ... Yes, it will not work for all DX 
> If you think the Bureau system is "superb" you probably don't use it. 
> The Bureau system is essentially broken. MANY hams do not participate, 
> some countries do not have bureaus, and it is VERY VERY slow. Many hams 
> who operate in small countries use QSL managers in countries where 
> return postage is $3, and who do not respond to cards sent via the 
> Bureau. I know that because I sent them cards through the Bureau. I 
> receive at least 500 cards a year from the Bureau, 95% of them from 
> Japan. On average, those cards are for contacts that are 21 months 
> earlier. Thus, a turnaround time of 3 1/2 years. I've sent thousands of 
> cards to the Bureau, with very poor return of the cards I needed for an 
> award.
>> and yes it depends on your ARRL membership, not a bad thing.
> I'm an ARRL member, currently paid until 2020.
>> But anyway, you said in an earlier mail you won't QSL if the contact 
>> is not on LotW. So what do you do if somebody sends you a card 
>> including return postage and you don't find him on LotW? Through away 
>> his card and keep his money? Is that your definition of "final courtesy"? 
> If that ham has not given other hams the courtesy of putting his log on 
> LOTW, I see no reason that I should give him the courtesy of sending a 
> card in return. Instead, I consider the money a contribution to the 
> considerable research that I done on ham radio issues and have published 
> on my website. I choose to do that work and publish it rather than spend 
> days sending cards to hams who are inconsiderate of other hams.
> 73, Jim K9YC
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